Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19
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What Gary Younge said about Cameron could easily apply to his pal:
As a young man Cameron looked out on the social carnage of pit closures and mass unemployment, looked at Margaret Thatcher's government and thought, these are my people. When all the debating is done, that is really all I need to know.
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I don't really want him dead. His born children and his unborn child need a father, his dreadful father needs his sons.
If only there were a way of stringing up the likes of him all the way down the Mall, on both sides, with piano wire, upside down, surrounded by jeering partisans, as far as their political personas were concerned but letting them live as private people.
If it were constitutionally possible I'd rather they dug John Major out of retirement and asked him 'Do you want a six month gig as PM?' than let anybody in the present cabinet loose on the job. Like getting the old MD to hold the fort for a bit because they have an idea of how the job is done. But not Cameron.
As a young man Cameron looked out on the social carnage of pit closures and mass unemployment, looked at Margaret Thatcher's government and thought, these are my people. When all the debating is done, that is really all I need to know.
I hate Tories. And yes, it's tribal | Gary Younge
Gary Younge: Labour was my tribe, but they did terrible things I could not be associated with. But I still long for Cameron to fail on Thursday
I don't really want him dead. His born children and his unborn child need a father, his dreadful father needs his sons.
If only there were a way of stringing up the likes of him all the way down the Mall, on both sides, with piano wire, upside down, surrounded by jeering partisans, as far as their political personas were concerned but letting them live as private people.
If it were constitutionally possible I'd rather they dug John Major out of retirement and asked him 'Do you want a six month gig as PM?' than let anybody in the present cabinet loose on the job. Like getting the old MD to hold the fort for a bit because they have an idea of how the job is done. But not Cameron.
JimW
支那暗杀团
Think it was China's first emperor who died on a tour of the south so legend has it they put a wagon of rotting fish behind his carriage to get the corpse back to the capital unnoticed. Watch out for a fried chicken truck following a van to Downing Street.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
maybe they'll keep him alive in a big throne like the Emperor of Mankind, the carrion lord.
What Gary Younge said about Cameron could easily apply to his pal:
As a young man Cameron looked out on the social carnage of pit closures and mass unemployment, looked at Margaret Thatcher's government and thought, these are my people. When all the debating is done, that is really all I need to know.
I hate Tories. And yes, it's tribal | Gary Younge
Gary Younge: Labour was my tribe, but they did terrible things I could not be associated with. But I still long for Cameron to fail on Thursday
I don't really want him dead. His born children and his unborn child need a father, his dreadful father needs his sons.
If only there were a way of stringing up the likes of him all the way down the Mall, on both sides, with piano wire, upside down, surrounded by jeering partisans, as far as their political personas were concerned but letting them live as private people.
If it were constitutionally possible I'd rather they dug John Major out of retirement and asked him 'Do you want a six month gig as PM?' than let anybody in the present cabinet loose on the job. Like getting the old MD to hold the fort for a bit because they have an idea of how the job is done. But not Cameron.
Gary Younge appears to hate every political party based on that article.
Doesn’t seem a particularly healthy mindset.
So you’d prefer John Major in charge (because he’s pro EU no doubt)?
But not Cameron (presumably because he called the referendum)?
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
Yawn.
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Starry Wisdom
The only good tory being a dead tory, yes
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Yes, and highlights exactly why there cannot be this barrier placed between science and politics, and why 'expertise' is often harmful.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
I had a long hard think about this and my response to it. My response was a knee jerk reaction sincere but never the less a knee jerk reaction. To be fair when I was a young shop steward I had similar misgivings about recruiting and representing people with views that I strongly disagreed with. There were two things that helped me rethink this and change my position. So without wanting to patronise I'll share them, might not change your mind but you'll see where I am coming from.
The first one was reading a short book Called Our Flag Stays Red by a bloke called Phil Piratin. Piratin was elected as a Communist MP in Stepney after the war. He got there by building community campaigns. In the years before the war he had been a key player in physical force anti fascism and mobilising people for Cable Street ,he was very active in building a large and well organised campaign over rent strikes and evictions. During that camapign he defended BUF members faced with eviction despite the fact that at other times he and the CP had been kicking the shit out of them . His justification was this was that despite their views they were also victims of landlords, the campaign would be stronger with less evictions ,that working class unity was key and that unity might move them away from their views. The campaign was very succesful.
The second ocassion was me speaking to a fella who had been the leader of strike action at an engineering factory iand now was the conveynor for the bin men on Brent council. Geoff had been around for years was friendly with what was IS when it was formed and was a thoroughly respected working class militant. I spoke to him as I had been asked to represent a bloke with known racist views and said to Geoff my heart wasnt in it. He said to me very seriously , 'Youv'e got to do it. We want every c**nt in the union, we want every workplace unionised You've got to make the management go through the union on every occasion and youve got to show that to the membership, thats how you build. If you dont then then where will you be when management go after one of our own, there wont be a union to call on because members will see how you pick and choose. If you believe that the working class can unite in theory then you have to make that happen in reality. You can tell the fella face to face you dont like his views but then you have to put that on one side and do your best'.
Both these things stuck in my mind for years to be honest. In the case last night we are talking about an un-unionised work place where there is inadequate health and safety at a time when there is a deadly virus. Objectively the least of any problems there is whether one of the workers has an internet fetish over Boris and Trump , he needs protection as do the other workers.
Ok lecture over.
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Too much fucking presuming, pal. Where in fuck's name did that come from? Unless from your diseased imagination, for lack of a better way of describing the workings of your mind, again for want of a better word.
A competent interim PM. Nothing to do with remaining, you arse. Because it's a crisis of epic proportions; Johnson is surrounded by nonentities who couldn't organise morning surgery in a country doctor's, which goes for Cameron in spades. So, as I thought I already said but you were incapable of understanding the first time, it's not a bad idea to get a dug-out who isn't gaga yet when you need someone who knows how to do things and how the job works.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Absolutely and that is the way that councils and government normally work tbh. The normal mode of civil servants ,economists, Police, Army and other experts is to mainly guess what is politically acceptable when asked for advice.
DB
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that's really poor, wasting a good chance to persuade someone of the errors of their ways
I think he could fake it .
Just for the record - I don’t have an internet fetish over Boris and Trump, I just think independently from MSM reporting.
But that’s a great post
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keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
I can almost picture it. Coronavirus meme/panic/fear mongering general thread
JimW
支那暗杀团
Mind so open your brains fell out
Smangus
comatose at a desk
We are way beyond Brexit leaver/remainer shite now, continual framing of the situation in these terms really is lazy, stunted thinking. Do wake up.
And then they still stink.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Mind so open your brains fell out
I know a bloke from Yorkshire over here who I occasionally bump into who on those occasions nearly always reminds me that he doesnt follow the Main Stream Media and gets his news from elsewhere. It used to be Russia Today and Fox news but over the years his sources of alternatives to MSM have become somewhat diverse . Aside from the struggles over the deep state, majestik 12, 5g, he has also had a UFO encounter ( I asked if there was a site that monitored UFO sightings in the Algarve as he might live in a hotspot but unfortunately they dont want us to know), he once met in a pub the man who invented bar codes who ,although sworn to secrecy under the official secrets act ,when drunk admitted to our man that it was designed to be tatooed on humans to track them. Also obsessed about cannabis oil and tumeric. A quick bottle of beer with him can sometimes seem like an eternity.
Just for the record - I don’t have an internet fetish over Boris and Trump, I just think independently from MSM reporting.
But that’s a great post
Being an independent thinker, not being led by the MSM, just like thousands of other tedious fuckwits with exactly the same 'original' views, banging on about the same tired things for ever is paradoxically dully mainstream.
lefteri
Well-Known Member
maybe he is both dead boris and alive boris until the first journalist is allowed to look inside the ICU
Cloo
Banana for scale
Love the way that some people seem to think the mainstream media is leftwing chortle
keybored
Well done. You remember cat good.
Schrödinger's prat?
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
My take on it is this:
1. Boris Johnson is a horrific sociopath and liar.
2. If he dies, he will be replaced by another horrific sociopath and liar.
Therefore his death, other to those in his family, doesn't matter all that much in the long run. It's a fate he has consigned many nameless people to either already, or in the year ahead.
Were he to survive, I'm sure he'll greet those deaths with the same indifference that I will greet his.
1. Boris Johnson is a horrific sociopath and liar.
2. If he dies, he will be replaced by another horrific sociopath and liar.
Therefore his death, other to those in his family, doesn't matter all that much in the long run. It's a fate he has consigned many nameless people to either already, or in the year ahead.
Were he to survive, I'm sure he'll greet those deaths with the same indifference that I will greet his.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
I am suitably chastised, yes I've read Piratin's book and your "lecture" is appreciated. I've repped on and off for about 40 years now and guess I've become somewhat jaded and cynical after supporting not only the best but the worst - people who are me me me, something for nothing schnorers, takers and users with scab minds and scab hearts.
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we all know what strong and stable now mean, at death's door
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