Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19

[Cid]

Isn’t this a really fucking weird thing to say?....

“ I know him very well so I am deeply saddened really that it should come to this. He has obviously worked like mad to try and get through this but it’s not good enough so far.

It doesn’t mean necessarily that he isn’t going to pull through this because they may have put him on intensive care because they can treat him and he may have a secondary infection, a serious chest infection and that will stabilise him, they can get after it, and get him through this and out the other side quicker in a more stable way.

Let’s hope and pray Boris is in the best of hands and will pull through.”

That’s from IDS.

Is that a verbatim quote from an interview or something? It is very odd.

 

[two sheds]

Is that a verbatim quote from an interview or something? It is very odd.

Certainly does sound like someone who thinks it's really serious and hopes to take over from him.

 

[Cid]

He's offering 'thoughts and prayers' on his twitter.

 

[two sheds]

Dead already?

 

[Part-timah]

Is that a verbatim quote from an interview or something? It is very odd.

It was posted on the Grauns Live feed.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Yeah, exactly, makes me realise the risk we’re (drivers) in.

Spoke to DPD driver today who said there’s one of his fellow drivers who has almost certainly got the virus, coughing like fuck and sweaty, but still working as he can’t afford to be off work. Fuck.

There is a delivery driver with symptoms who is not self-isolating? We can't afford for him not to be off work. How does he think he's not going to infect others on his deliveries?

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

He does look terrified.

Interesting note of body language:

The way murderers are often caught out telling porkies, is that they say "yes" with their mouth bus can't help the natural reaction of head shaking or vice versa.

Look at Raab.


Especially with the question "is the government stull in control".

 

[Cid]

It was posted on the Grauns Live feed.

Yeah, I saw that, it says 'he has told the BBC', so I suppose he just spouted it out or something.

 

[Raheem]

Where is Whitty?!

Now there's a book franchise waiting to happen.

Although, come to think of it, not a good one.

 

[8ball]

Now there's a book franchise waiting to happen.

Although, come to think of it, not a good one.

Whitty would need to be wearing sunglasses on each page to keep your gaze from being instantly drawn to his cold, dead eyes.

 

[Marty1]

There is a delivery driver with symptoms who is not self-isolating? We can't afford for him not to be off work. How does he think he's not going to infect others on his deliveries?

I know, it’s fucked up.

We (Amazon drivers) have to take a thermometer reading every morning now before starting work and get PPE disposable gloves, hand sanitiser and face masks - DPD guy was in shorts and a t-shirt and said they weren’t offered any PPE.

This just popped up in my news feed:

Doctors lacking PPE 'bullied' into treating Covid-19 patients

Staff told to ‘hold their breath’ due to lack of masks, survey by Doctors’ Association UK finds

www.theguardian.com

 

[two sheds]

I've been sort of wondering whether my lack of compassion towards Johnson is a bit over the top.

Then I sort of think that he's been quite happy to throw me under a bus (and may still) with his herd immunity shit - 66 and with pre-existing condition - and then I sort of think fuck him.

I don't actively want him to die but I'm reserving my compassion for the doctors and nurses who've been thrown into the front line without proper PPE equipment and who - particularly nurses - are being grossly overworked and who aren't being paid a proper wage and whose wage rise was voted down by these tory cunts.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Isn’t this a really fucking weird thing to say?....

“ I know him very well so I am deeply saddened really that it should come to this. He has obviously worked like mad to try and get through this but it’s not good enough so far.

It doesn’t mean necessarily that he isn’t going to pull through this because they may have put him on intensive care because they can treat him and he may have a secondary infection, a serious chest infection and that will stabilise him, they can get after it, and get him through this and out the other side quicker in a more stable way.

Let’s hope and pray Boris is in the best of hands and will pull through.”

That’s from IDS.

Sounds like he thinks Boris just didn't try hard enough to get better. Which fits with what we already know about IDS.

 

[frogwoman]

Sounds like he thinks Boris just didn't try hard enough to get better. Which fits with what we already know about IDS.

Fit for work!

 

[two sheds]

... and is only fucking prime minister because him and the daily mail and express and telegraph and the rest of his tory mates and financiers lied their way through the election to get him voted in.

/ and breathes.

 

[ska invita]

Where is Whitty?!

he's just back out of ISO today Chris Whitty out of isolation after coronavirus symptoms

 

[planetgeli]

... and is only fucking prime minister because him and the daily mail and express and telegraph and the rest of his tory mates and financiers lied their way through the election to get him voted in.

/ and breathes.

Um..this is normal for Tory election wins, no?

Fuck him.

 

[8ball]

Posted on Fb that I hope the NHS staff looking after Johnson have been supplied with decent PPE and a lot of the usual “go NHS” types are a bit muted.

 

[Raheem]

I've been sort of wondering whether my lack of compassion towards Johnson is a bit over the top.

Then I sort of think that he's been quite happy to throw me under a bus (and may still) with his herd immunity shit - 66 and with pre-existing condition - and then I sort of think fuck him.

I don't actively want him to die but I'm reserving my compassion for the doctors and nurses who've been thrown into the front line without proper PPE equipment and who - particularly nurses - are being grossly overworked and who aren't being paid a proper wage and whose wage rise was voted down by these tory cunts.

It's worth taking a moment to think about what the policy amounted to. 100,000 or more cannon-fodder deaths so as to keep Wetherspoons open. Motivated in part, no doubt, by a vain and deluded idea that, without a lockdown, the Government could gain the economic upper-hand in Brexit negotiations.

Even in the context of the last ten years, and even compared to some of the most awful episodes in modern British history, it's a singularly shocking and barbaric policy decision. Made worse because it was unworkable, but those behind it were too arrogant to even think it through properly.

I'll confess I find it hard not to see Johnson as justly hoist by his own petard. That's not just a reflex response because he's a Tory cunt. Had it been some other Tory cunt, I might, who knows, have been able to somehow find a scrap of sympathy.

 

[Petcha]

I've been sort of wondering whether my lack of compassion towards Johnson is a bit over the top.

Then I sort of think that he's been quite happy to throw me under a bus (and may still) with his herd immunity shit - 66 and with pre-existing condition - and then I sort of think fuck him.

I don't actively want him to die but I'm reserving my compassion for the doctors and nurses who've been thrown into the front line without proper PPE equipment and who - particularly nurses - are being grossly overworked and who aren't being paid a proper wage and whose wage rise was voted down by these tory cunts.

I agree with your sentiment. But is there any evidence that he was personally responsible for all that?

And I say that as someone who's partner is a nurse currently dealing with a whole lot of shit and me trying to make dad jokes to stop her crying over the shit she's going through on a daily basis. I think he may have been ill-advised on the herd community shit by people who are actually trained in this shit and got it totally wrong. And as far as PPE is concerned the entire world was caught short on that. We were all caught unawares. A few weeks ago I had a good job etc and now I'm on a benefit for the first time in my life. The whole fucking thing is bonkers.

My politics are are the polar opposite of Boris. But he's a guy. The people dancing on his grave are fucked up (imo).

 

[Steel Icarus]

Interesting note of body language:

The way murderers are often caught out telling porkies, is that they say "yes" with their mouth bus can't help the natural reaction of head shaking or vice versa.

Look at Raab.


Especially with the question "is the government stull in control".

Tbf a head shake there could easily mean "you're trying to say the government isn't in control but that's wrong"

 

[SpookyFrank]

I've been sort of wondering whether my lack of compassion towards Johnson is a bit over the top.

Remember when he got shown that video of the young boy in a hospital corridor because there were no beds for him, and he just took the guy's phone off him and carried on blathering nonsense? That was when I realised he wasn't just a bad politician, or a common-or-garden arsehole, but that there was something genuinely missing from him. He's a man without empathy. I've seen the damage people like that can do, and so it really is impossible for me to feel anything for him at all. All I've ever wanted was for the harm he could do to be somehow minimised. I'm far convinced that him dying tomorrow would be the scenario that leads to that outcome.

I don't care what happens to him as a person at all. I don't think he has the thing that makes you a person in the first place.

 

[Part-timah]

Sounds like he thinks Boris just didn't try hard enough to get better. Which fits with what we already know about IDS.

I hope the minimum wage staff he undoubtably employs on zero hour contracts and forced to work while ill gobs on his quail eggs.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Tbf a head shake there could easily mean "you're trying to say the government isn't in control but that's wrong"

I'm not an expert on these things but that's a man shitting frisbees if ever I saw one.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I agree with your sentiment. But is there any evidence that he was personally responsible for all that?

And I say that as someone who's partner is a nurse currently dealing with a whole lot of shit and me trying to make dad jokes to stop her crying over the shit she's going through on a daily basis. I think he may have been ill-advised on the herd community shit by people who are actually trained in this shit and got it totally wrong. And as far as PPE is concerned the entire world was caught short on that. We were all caught unawares. A few weeks ago I had a good job etc and now I'm on a benefit for the first time in my life. The whole fucking is bonkers.

My politics are are the polar opposite of Boris. But he's a guy. The people dancing on his grave are fucked up (imo).

The only bit I can really forgive him for is fucking up his initial response to this crisis. He got it badly wrong and changed tack too late, but he wasn't the only European leader to do that, and he did at least change tack decisively in the end. I do think he's been trying to do the right thing for the last couple of weeks.

But the shit he's been responsible for over the last few years as part of government has cost lives and caused untold unnecessary misery, and is also a large part of the poor state of preparedness coming in to this crisis. So yes, he has personal responsibility for many of the things 2sheds lists. Him being ill with something I would not have wished upon him doesn't change that.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I know, it’s fucked up.

We (Amazon drivers) have to take a thermometer reading every morning now before starting work and get PPE disposable gloves, hand sanitiser and face masks - DPD guy was in shorts and a t-shirt and said they weren’t offered any PPE.

This just popped up in my news feed:

Doctors lacking PPE 'bullied' into treating Covid-19 patients

Staff told to ‘hold their breath’ due to lack of masks, survey by Doctors’ Association UK finds

www.theguardian.com

Where have you been? There's even a thread of NHS workers on this site talking about these very things.

 

[Petcha]

The only bit I can really forgive him for is fucking up his initial response to this crisis. He got it badly wrong and changed tack too late, but he wasn't the only European leader to do that, and he did at least change tack decisively in the end. I do think he's been trying to do the right thing for the last couple of weeks.

But the shit he's been responsible for over the last few years as part of government has cost lives and caused untold unnecessary misery, and is also a large part of the poor state of preparedness coming in to this crisis. So yes, he has personal responsibility for many of the things 2sheds lists.

I get what you mean. But he wasn't an MP during the austerity shit Cameron and Osborne brought in (or am I wrong?)

He's a libertarian. Which is, as far as I understand it, why he was so reluctant to impose lockdown.

Anyway. That's all I've got. I refuse to defend the dickhead anymore, but I'm trying to look at it objectively.

 

[two sheds]

I agree with your sentiment. But is there any evidence that he was personally responsible for all that?

And I say that as someone who's partner is a nurse currently dealing with a whole lot of shit and me trying to make dad jokes to stop her crying over the shit she's going through on a daily basis. I think he may have been ill-advised on the herd community shit by people who are actually trained in this shit and got it totally wrong. And as far as PPE is concerned the entire world was caught short on that. We were all caught unawares. A few weeks ago I had a good job etc and now I'm on a benefit for the first time in my life. The whole fucking thing is bonkers.

My politics are are the polar opposite of Boris. But he's a guy. The people dancing on his grave are fucked up (imo).

Yes fair play - we were all caught unawares but the general running down of the NHS is the reason the nurses are now so overworked and stressed. And underpaid .

If they're going to value hedge fund gamblers as hundreds of times more valuable than nurses then what else is going to happen?

 

[binka]

Ivan Drago gif

 

[Petcha]

Yes fair play - we were all caught unawares but the general running down of the NHS is the reason the nurses are now so overworked and stressed. And underpaid .

If they're going to value hedge fund gamblers as hundreds of times more valuable than nurses then what else is going to happen?

I think a silver lining of this whole thing is that the people who actually matter will be valued a whole lot fucking more after this eventually dies down. It's a total paradigm shift.