Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support
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equationgirl
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I hope you liked the arsekicking zippy got, culder.
I hope you're feeling more positive.
Tell you what, those adverts for the paralympics that seem to be on the telly every ten minutes, well call me a conspiraloon if you will, but if you ask me, those ads are only being shown in order to plant the idea in peoples minds that disabled people can do sports = disabled people can work. When did it become socially acceptable to cast aspersions on the disabled? Some clown today said to me mate "Oh, yer only usin those crutches to get on the sick", well she battered him with those selfsame crutches, quite badly as well - I had to drag her away, leaving the gobshite in a pool of his own blood and victimhood. What the trumpet didn't realise is that she was brought up to fight and she's found it really hard to cope with the fact that her body's become weak, so him saying that was a red rag to the proverbial - I think she may have done him serious harm 
, even not firing on all cylinders, she is quite good at violence.
, even not firing on all cylinders, she is quite good at violence.
Zippy got used as a mop.
equationgirl
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WouldBe
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Just make accurate second by second notes from the dictaphone recording then.Which, given most are going to appeal, you don't want anything to count against you.
Nothing to say about notes though, or 'supplementary notes'
FWIW I almost felt sorry for him.
equationgirl
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I to have been going through the form, I've spent hours on it.
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I'm going to the benefits advice in the morning, I have read Work and Pension website, I can't help feeling, it doesn't really matter, they are going to fail me anyway, I know that isn't the way to go
Minnie_the_Minx
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I to have been going through the form, I've spent hours on it.
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I'm going to the benefits advice in the morning, I have read Work and Pension website, I can't help feeling, it doesn't really matter, they are going to fail me anyway, I know that isn't the way to go
Yeah, I think a lot of us are assuming we're automatically going to fail it, but it's still worth filling it in properly for the purposes of an appeal
equationgirl
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Celt, if you would like any help with the form, I'm happy to help. Just start a conversation to keep it private. I can help in the evenings.I to have been going through the form, I've spent hours on it.
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I'm going to the benefits advice in the morning, I have read Work and Pension website, I can't help feeling, it doesn't really matter, they are going to fail me anyway, I know that isn't the way to go
Don't assume you're going to fail it. You might not. Also don't forget to complete it as if you are on your worst day, not your best.
You know the story of the Great Escape? Every single one of those POWs wanted to get home if they possibly could, and very few of them got a home run. OTOH what all of them (even the ones caught almost immediately) achieved was to divert into an enormous amount of the German manpower looking for them and carting them off (while doing that, they were less available for the rest of the war effort). Just as importantly, it was a boost to morale for the POWs and hugely embarrassing for the authorities.<snip>I'm going to the benefits advice in the morning, I have read Work and Pension website, I can't help feeling, it doesn't really matter, they are going to fail me anyway, I know that isn't the way to go
My point is, that IMHO you have to try. If you can at all, even if you don't want to. Even if you don't see the point. Because every claim which is turned down for no good reason (and wins on appeal) changes case law, and gradually all of us win.
Minnie_the_Minx
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and if you don't fill it in and make a claim, you'll only add to the Government's propaganda that they've reduced the number of claimants/dodgy claimants
Minnie_the_Minx
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and make sure you read it through and through and don't contradict yourself
Yes it makes perfect sense. But there are advisers who can help you work out how to word it.
Not because you're stupid or anything: People tend to blank out quite how sick or disabled they are because you begin to just think of it as normal for everyone, not just for you.
Thanks, I may well send you what I have got so far, but will go to our benefits advice shop, it is well thought of locally, unfotunately when I went to tribunal long time ago on a council tax issue with them, we lost, partly due to my own inate sense of "present the best of yourself", I cannot help it.
Minnie_the_Minx
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You probably haven't put nearly enough information in. Mine got longer and longer and longer when I had certain people on here helping me
sorry thread hogging but writing this I realise that describing this behaviour
I need to get to bed if I'm going to achieve benefits advice, night thread
is my biggest problem,unfotunately when I went to tribunal long time ago on a council tax issue with them, we lost, partly due to my own inate sense of "present the best of yourself", I cannot help it.
I need to get to bed if I'm going to achieve benefits advice, night thread
equationgirl
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Of course you want to present yourself well. It's just that Atos seem to be using it against claimants even if getting to the assessment was a real struggle. The more evidence you can present about your condition(s), the harder it is for them to argue against you.
Minnie_the_Minx
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Minnie_the_Minx
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Yep, even if you look well-presented, it sounds like that can go against you. Saw it in a CAB thingy, where they said that person who got copy of assessment was classed as well-kempt etc. The CAB found that impossible to believe as he was always a total mess whenever they saw him
equationgirl
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Don't worry about it, I hogged it for ages when I was filling form
It's not hogging, it's why the thread was set up - to help anybody who needed it.
Minnie_the_Minx
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Libertad
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Quick little aside here, I've just received my second ESA50, six months after the last. Little has changed in my condition, should I fill it in exactly as I did the last one? I copied it so I have a good record and I was helped to fill it in by an Urb who has had experience in these matters.
Minnie_the_Minx
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I'd be tempted to scrawl across the whole fucking thing "NO CHANGE YOU BASTARDS!", but you're better off taking advice from someone else
Unless you've got worse, yes.
Libertad
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Do you think that I should include the fact that the stress that they are putting me under will decrease the chances of my treatment being successful? I wondered if that might help if things go to appeal.
What about using the phrase "bunch of cunts" liberally? That course of action would accurately reflect my current state of mind.
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