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Dispatches next week, 'Britain on the sick'

It's another exposure of Atos and its methods, rubbish that they are both on during the olympics..

just asked Ch4 to reschedule...
 
Disabled or Faking It?

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Duration: 30 minutes
Panorama investigates the government's plans to end the so-called 'sick note culture' and their attempts to get millions of people off disability benefits and into work. In Britain's modern welfare state, millions are being paid to private companies to assess sick and disabled claimants but is the system working? Or are new tests wrongly victimising those who deserve support the most?


Actually the Panorama one looks like the usual BBC bifurcation of deserving/undeserving poor, they just can't seem to have a programme about the undoubted brutalities and absurdities of ATOS and welfare reform...
 
Disabled or Faking It?

If that's the name of the programme, it gives me the impression that it's not entirely on the side of the disabled. I'm probably wrong though, but why use "Faking" in the title? :hmm:
 
It's a perception being propagated by the mainstream media, especially the tabloids and a number of people believing it. I'll have an opinion on it when I've seen it.
 
I've just seen this on FB - same date as Panorama -

Dispatches Channel 4, 30th July 2012:

Reporter Jackie Long goes undercover to investigate the methods used to assess sickness and disability benefit claimants, and gauge their fitness for work.
8pm to 8.30pm

Showing Mon 30 Jul 8pm - 8:30pm
Channel 4
Repeat Mon 30 Jul 9pm
Channel 4 +1
Repeat Fri 3 Aug 2:30am
Channel 4
 
treelover said:
Disabled or Faking It?

b01lldrc.jpg

Duration: 30 minutes
Panorama investigates the government's plans to end the so-called 'sick note culture' and their attempts to get millions of people off disability benefits and into work. In Britain's modern welfare state, millions are being paid to private companies to assess sick and disabled claimants but is the system working? Or are new tests wrongly victimising those who deserve support the most?


Actually the Panorama one looks like the usual BBC bifurcation of deserving/undeserving poor, they just can't seem to have a programme about the undoubted brutalities and absurdities of ATOS and welfare reform...
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I fucking knew it i posted as much on the Guardian website earlier. BBC tow the Tory line when it comes to benefits.
 
Add message | Report | Message postercarernotasaintWed 18-Jul-12 15:33:46
the BBC left wing? What a load of bollocks.
In the same week of the RBS/NatWest/Ulster shambles there was not ONE mention of it on Question Time. Yet on that particular edition they still found a good 15 mins to have a go at benefit claimants.
Newsnight stitched up a young single mum earlier this year presenting her as unemployed when she wasnt.
John Humphreys did a programme about the welfare state earlier this year saying it was too "generous". omitting the fact that many people are having to use food banks
and then he did a Panorama programme about people in Greece having to rely on the generosity of charities!!!! Yet the idiot refuses to see the connection.
BBC also broadcasts Saints and Scroungers. If you want any more examples Flatpack im sure i can come up with some more. Left wing MY ARSE!
 
audiotech my post (above ) is a copy of paste jobby of what i wrote in a mumsnet thread. It was a discussion we were having about the fact that the 2 part documentary on the riots was cancelled last week. The above post was in response to someone who said that the BBC is left wing!
Audio you can see from the examples ive mentioned in said post that the BBC do have a record of towing the Government line. That is why i dont hold out much hope for the Panorama documentary. I shall still watch it of course but im more interested in the Dispatches one.
 
The BBC is a part of the state.

This is the blurb I've read in an email from 'Benefits and Work' same as above.
Panorama investigates the government's plans to end the
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so-called 'sick note culture' and their attempts to get millions of people off disability benefits and into work. In Britain's modern welfare state, millions are being paid to private companies to assess sick and disabled claimants but is the system working? Or are new tests wrongly victimising those who deserve support the most?
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...and Channel 4 Dispatches:
Using undercover filming, reporter Jackie Long investigates the
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shocking processes used to assess whether sickness and disability benefit claimants should be declared fit for work.
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My emphasis.
Is it likely the two programmes will come to different conclusions, or a likelihood the conclusions, given the evidence out there, will be similar?
 
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Please read if you have had an ATOS assessment. Received an email from the Benefits and Work website ( you don't have to be a member to see this ) Professor Harrington who has been doing the review into ATOS wants to hear from anyone who has been through the ATOS assessment as to whether the changes he has recommended are making a difference. It's basically whether we are being dealt with fairly and effectively since the changes were made
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It goes on to say that the DWP have made it extremely difficult for anyone to answer the questions and probably working on the assumption that hardly anyone will have the chance to respond, will get a favourable outcome for them. It explains it fully on the site - too much to put here.​
Benefits and Work have put together a questionnaire themselves and so it's important that all of us who have suffered at the hands of ATOS to fill this in and it will then be forwarded to Prof Harrington. Not much time - it has to be back by the 7th September. It seems that it was deliberate that they only give us a few weeks to do it and that it coincided with the school summer holidays. Pass this on to as many people as you can.​
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I vaguely remember seeing something about a time limit, but then forgot about it! I'll have another go a bit later.
 
I've twice tried to complete it, but I need ages more time.
It's difficult for me to concentrate for long enough, I would have to do it in separate segments to cope.
 
treelover said:
Its appalling that it has a time limit, many disabled people have cognitive issues or are easily fatigued, this may be discriminatory and be challenged...
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might be worth asking b&w if they can change it?
seeing as whatever you enter onto the questionnaire will be emailed to you, for you to send to the consultation yourself, i'd guess it's maybe easier and more straightforward to just complete the text version instead (unless i've completely misunderstood how it works)?
 
Interesting blog:

'This review matters, so do try and complete this'.​

We’ve created a text version of the questionnaire, so if you prefer you can type in that and then send your answers to Harrington.
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​
....and there's this on using the Atos complaints procedure.​

This too:

High Court rules Work Capability Assessment arguably unlawful.

The judge said:

I consider that it is reasonably arguable that the reasonable adjustments
required by the [Equality Act 2010] include the early obtaining of independent
medical evidence where the documents submitted with the claim show that the
claimant suffers from mental health problems and that this has not been done, or
at least not done on a sufficiently widespread basis.
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Solicitor, Ravi Low-Beer of the Public Law Project said:

The present system results in many thousands of unnecessary appeals at great
public expense, with a high success rate. What is not counted is the cost in
human misery for those people who should never have had to go through the
appeals process in the first place. This could be avoided if doctors were involved
in the assessments at the outset. The Government’s policy of by-passing doctors
is inefficient, unfair, and inhumane. We gain heart from the court’s finding that as
a matter of law, it is arguable that something has to change.
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