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A new kitchen? :eek: ;)

No mention of asking for an extension or a deadline in the accompanying letter just "send it back asap".

Oh, I'm positive you only have six weeks. Well if it does say six weeks, you could say your illness gives you memory problems and you forgot :D
 
From Benefits and Work

Helen Goodman: My constituent was treated for breast cancer in July 2010. She was deemed fit for work by Atos before the post-op results were received. The tribunal found in her favour and awarded her employment and support allowance in January 2012. However, her ESA entitlement was stopped in April because of the introduction of the government’s 365-day rule. She was reassessed in May 2012 and found fit for work again. Her employer has held her job open but cannot re-employ her until she is deemed fit for work by her doctor. This is obviously extremely bad for her health. Will the Minister agree to meet me about this case?

Chris Grayling:It is obviously very difficult to talk about an individual case, and I am afraid that I make it a matter of policy that ministers do not become involved in individual cases. What I would say is that it is extremely important that we provide support for all cancer sufferers who can potentially return to work to do so at the earliest opportunity. That is much better for them than being stuck at home on benefits.

How about being stuck at home recovering from a gruelling illness

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Well, the video makes it seem like a jolly day out, although there's no mention of picnics or ginger beer.

I was ok with the video, right up until it showed the 'friend' stabbing the guy in the back in front of the Tribunal panel. If I took someone with me in to a tribunal, and they turned round and said 'I know EG said it's her back, but I really think she's depressed' I would NOT be a happy bunny at all!!! I think it's no coincidence that someone with a back problem is being portrayed as someone who could work really, given that there was something in the press about back problems being a common reason for claiming. Plus, the lack of understanding towards mental health was staggering.

A good idea, poorly executed, in my opinion.

Sometimes, the pain from my back is so acute it takes my breath away, but hey, I'm just depressed, right?
 
Sometimes, the pain from my back is so acute it takes my breath away, but hey, I'm just depressed, right?
...and I find it very, very difficult indeed to straighten up when mine goes into spasm. The pain is excruciating.
 
Well, the video makes it seem like a jolly day out, although there's no mention of picnics or ginger beer.

I was ok with the video, right up until it showed the 'friend' stabbing the guy in the back in front of the Tribunal panel. If I took someone with me in to a tribunal, and they turned round and said 'I know EG said it's her back, but I really think she's depressed' I would NOT be a happy bunny at all!!! I think it's no coincidence that someone with a back problem is being portrayed as someone who could work really, given that there was something in the press about back problems being a common reason for claiming. Plus, the lack of understanding towards mental health was staggering.

A good idea, poorly executed, in my opinion.

Sometimes, the pain from my back is so acute it takes my breath away, but hey, I'm just depressed, right?

Well I'm not sure I'd believe you anyway. Having only one kidney means you probably only get half a backache you slacker
 
Yeah, what a fucktard :mad:

Although, clearly ATOS have decided that 'recovering from cancer' = 'lazy feckless workshy malingerer'. :rolleyes::facepalm::mad::(

My friend got breast cancer and was in and out of hospital for a couple of years. Ended up with over 25 operations I think due to infections and reconstructions getting reinfected
 
My friend got breast cancer and was in and out of hospital for a couple of years. Ended up with over 25 operations I think due to infections and reconstructions getting reinfected
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These people are so arrogant with their pig ignorance, it simply doesn't occur to them that people actually are unable to work with the best will in the world.

I am fortunate in that I can work full time at the moment, despite the pain, and work is broadly supportive of me, however after my serious illness two years ago my health is more fragile than before so I might not be able to work full time for as long as I need/want to.

Fuck knows what I will do if that happens.
 
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These people are so arrogant with their pig ignorance, it simply doesn't occur to them that people actually are unable to work with the best will in the world.

I am fortunate in that I can work full time at the moment, despite the pain, and work is broadly supportive of me, however after my serious illness two years ago my health is more fragile than before so I might not be able to work full time for as long as I need/want to.

Fuck knows what I will do if that happens.

Scary thought innit :(
 
They're fully aware. There's a whole host of lobby groups, advisor's and then there's the whole state machine at their disposal.
I hope that they get an early karmic payback then - I wouldn't wish illness on anyone but maybe karma will.
 
That video is the most patronising twaddle I've seen in a long time - and believe me, I've seen a fair bit of patronising twaddle.

Dear patronising video actress - yes, I would love to fill in the form you're referring to, but after 6 months I still haven't received it. I phoned the Tribunal Service today and was told that they still don't have me in their system. ESA, when I finally got an answer after holding for ages, told me that someone will phone me back by 4.20 today. Not holding my breath.

Chris Grayling, quoted above -

" I make it a matter of policy that ministers do not become involved in individual cases"

They are bloody well responsible for individual cases, fuckwit.
 
That video is the most patronising twaddle I've seen in a long time - and believe me, I've seen a fair bit of patronising twaddle.

Dear patronising video actress - yes, I would love to fill in the form you're referring to, but after 6 months I still haven't received it. I phoned the Tribunal Service today and was told that they still don't have me in their system. ESA, when I finally got an answer after holding for ages, told me that someone will phone me back by 4.20 today. Not holding my breath.

Chris Grayling, quoted above -

" I make it a matter of policy that ministers do not become involved in individual cases"

They are bloody well responsible for individual cases, fuckwit.

Morally, yes. Practically, yes. In terms of accepting responsibility for operational decisions, malfunctions etc? Not on your life.
 
I did get a call back, and after getting rather upset (to put it mildly) I was told that someone else will call me.
 
Heavens. I was just phoned by a Decision Maker who is going to look at my case first thing tomorrow and then phone me to discuss it.

I almost feel as though I've achieved something.
Best of luck with that, Culder, here's hoping the decision will be in your favour.
 
Has anyone put all these ATOS death stories together on 1 website with an "ATOS death toll" counter at the top of the page yet? :)

That's a very good idea!

Well, everyone, prepare yourselves to be gobsmacked. The guy I spoke to yesterday phoned at precisely 9am today. He had reviewed all my documents, and decided that I am not fit for work. I'll have to go onto what they call WRAG (Work Related Activity Group), but that sounds fair enough, I think.

Until I've got it in writing I still won't feel quite out of the woods yet, and it hasn't really sunk in that this might all be over. But I can see a light at the end of the tunnel. (Of course, my Mum said, "As long as it isn't a train coming in the other direction!")
 
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