And now a French General election too (2024)

[littlebabyjesus]

Does Macron fall on his sword or does continue

There's no constitutional reason he can't just appoint a new PM and carry on, rinse and repeat, then new parliamentary elections later next year.

I'll be amazed if he doesn't continue. Can't see him giving up and the fall of this government doesn't force him out constitutionally. Only the force of public opinion could possibly do that, but I'd bet he would take the Barnier stance - I must think of the country and carry on. He probably has an ego big enough that he will actually believe it as well.

 

[agricola]

Does Macron fall on his sword or does continue

"does something moronic" is also an option

 

[Sue]

There's no constitutional reason he can't just appoint a new PM and carry on, rinse and repeat, then new parliamentary elections later next year.

I'll be amazed if he doesn't continue. Can't see him giving up and the fall of this government doesn't force him out constitutionally. Only the force of public opinion could possibly do that, but I'd bet he would take the Barnier stance - I must think of the country and carry on. He probably has an ego big enough that he will actually believe it as well.

Yeah, he's in till 2027 and don't think they can force him to go before then. Can't imagine him stepping down.

 

[Kaka Tim]

"does something moronic" is also an option

Declare Martial Law - AKA The Yoon the Loon Option.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

tbf he's already done something moronic. Appointing a PM from a failing r/w party when the left block won a third of the seats. It guaranteed that the only way the govt would avoid toppling was to work with Le Pen. Le Pen's National Rally has been fully normalised by Barnier as a party to be haggled with like any other.

Assuming they hold another election next summer, I can see Macron's 'centre' completely collapsing (they're not really centre at all, they're right). Will Le Pen finally get the breakthrough she was hoping for last year? It's all to fight for in France atm. At least there is a functioning left.

 

[belboid]

He has three choices - call on the left, call on the right, call a new election.

0 chance of Option A, low chance of Option B, one last fling at another parliamentary election, imo.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

He has three choices - call on the left, call on the right, call a new election.

isn't there a rule that he can't do that until july, though? something about no more than 1 election in any 12 months? (or have i misread something?)

 

[belboid]

isn't there a rule that he can't do that until july, though? something about no more than 1 election in any 12 months? (or have i misread something?)

ooh, no, I had forgotten that.

I dint see how he can pretend to cobble together on more not quite far-right government tho

 

[Bingoman]

isn't there a rule that he can't do that until july, though? something about no more than 1 election in any 12 months? (or have i misread something?)

Basically his screwed either way

 

[TopCat]

Macron expected to name new French PM after days of political deadlock

President has struggled to find candidate who satisfies enough lawmakers in bitterly divided parliament

www.theguardian.com

 

[TopCat]

What is Macron expecting to happen? Macron ally François Bayrou appointed new French prime minister

 

[Puddy_Tat]

What is Macron expecting to happen? Macron ally François Bayrou appointed new French prime minister

looks like he's chosen this option.

There's no constitutional reason he can't just appoint a new PM and carry on, rinse and repeat, then new parliamentary elections later next year.

how many PM's until the july election?

 

[TopCat]

looks like he's chosen this option.



how many PM's until the july election?

But he can’t get legislation passed with an ever changing cast of shits no one supports?

 

[Serene]

After a day of intense negotiations and discussions between the Prime Minister and Emmanuel Macron, the Elysée announced to France Télévision that the list of ministers would not be known on Sunday. ( today )

DIRECT. Nouveau gouvernement : l'annonce de la liste des ministres de François Bayrou n'interviendra pas dimanche, selon l'Elysée

Après une journée d'intenses tractations et de discussions entre le Premier ministre et Emmanuel Macron, l'Elysée a annoncé à France Télévisions que la liste des ministres ne serait pas connue dimanche.

www.francetvinfo.fr

 

[yield]

As Budget Impasse Grinds On, Macron Appoints a New Cabinet
NYTimes. Dec. 23, 2024 https://archive.ph/MTIbj

President Emmanuel Macron of France on Monday appointed a new cabinet less than three weeks after the previous government collapsed over a bitter budgetary stalemate.

It was unclear how long the government might last or whether it would be able to assuage broader concerns about political instability in Europe at a time when the region faces significant security and economic challenges.

The center-right orientation of the new French government roughly mirrors that of the previous one, which lasted less than three months after coming under attack from the left and the far right in Parliament. It demonstrates that Mr. Macron and his new prime minister, François Bayrou, remain committed to the idea that France can be governed from the center, even amid a period of intense political polarization. But choosing another government with a rightward slant may make it hard to bring left-leaning lawmakers in on a much-needed deal to fund the government next year.

At the very least, the announcement of new ministers gives France a functioning government at a time when Germany, another cornerstone of the European Union, remains adrift. The German government of Chancellor Olaf Scholz collapsed this month, and new elections are likely to be held in late February.

The political turmoil in the two heavyweight countries of Europe comes at a particularly perilous time for the continent. The election of Donald J. Trump as U.S. president for a second time has spurred concerns about whether the United States will continue to support Ukraine in the war against Russia and about whether Mr. Trump might upend NATO.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

"Governed from the center"

 

[yield]

"Governed from the center"

The Overton window

 

[PTK]

The Overton window

I don't remember there being an Overton Window in Playschool, the television programme for children.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The Overton window

Think Barnier fell out of that.