I'm judging you sorry.
Alex Salmond accused (and then cleared) of sexual misconduct.
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You are not good enough for that. Stick your judgements up your arsehole.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
You don't disagree, though to put it bluntly, you don't seem to care.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Sending Galloway round seems a bit harsh even for Blair.
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redsquirrel
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I don't really get this. What do you think the SNP should do? Go down the Catalan route? That has hardly been a great success, and would frighten a lot of the moderates that the Independence movement needs to win over. I'm no great fan of the legal challenge approach but unless the SNP is going to become a very different party I simply don't see that they have a lot of alternatives.
Bit of a reversion to the mean too?
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emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
Oh right. Got you.
but i was thinking more of the end of saddam hussein.
i've had involvement in enough political organisations to know that they contain some ruthless utter fuckers, often at high level. you know this too. If you have voted in any election, you have voted for them. Dont you care?
weepiper
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Nicola Sturgeon has got Scotland closer to a Yes vote than Alex Salmond ever did and he hates it. There's no need to 'progress independence' by voting for him. She's doing fine.
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Wilf
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I've mainly been doing anarcho-non voting for the last 20 years, but have at times voted Labour (pre and post Blair). But this isn't about voting this is about a party launched on day 1 around a groper. I'd keep my distance personally.
Edit: 'groper' is not a great term to use perhaps. Lets stick with 'sex pest'.
danny la rouge
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that's a nice voice you've got, danny, quite hypnotic
my reasons to support (with a vote, not money, not canvassing, not membership) Alba are clearly stated above. They are separate from what i think of some of the members of Alba as individuals.
These things should be easy enough to follow?
Just as an example, when comrade delta committed an act of rape, i didn't automatically assume all SWP comrades were rapists.
danny la rouge
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But any who stayed were rape apologists at best.
ska invita
back on the other side
This argument is persuasive
TNS poll shows SNP 2nd votes wasted: Alan Bisset backs RISE for a Yes parliament
In response to today’s TNS poll, RISE is highlighting the fact that, for supporters of Scottish independence, their second ‘list’ vote will be wasted on the SNP due to the nature of Scotland’s elec…bellacaledonia.org.uk
I'm slow - is the argument there needs to be a second independence party to mop up second voting preferences? That makes some sense if so, though it sounds like there are already other indie parties (i hadnt heard of them tbh). Are you obliged to vote for a second preference? I thought not.
Whatever: Alex Salmond needs to muster a shred of decency and go home and sit down.
incredible that you'd bring this up in support of your stance that supporting parties led by handsy creeps is actually fine.
You seem to be saying this is an issue of timing then? So in a years time it might be ok to offer electoral support? Or never? This election is 6 weeks away. Alba are standing whether anyone likes it or not, and every Scottish voter is forced to assume an attitude towards it. That is what i have done. Am i therefore a misogynist groper? The idea is ridiculous.
The timing of origin is a poor argument on which to oppose a Party.
danny la rouge
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It’s not second preference. There are two votes, one by FPTP for the constituency MSP and one by dHondt for the list MSPs in the electoral region.
redsquirrel
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andysays
Love and solidarity
I'm not sure that using a name in a language that only 1.1% of the Scottish population speak (according to 2011 Census), and which many who support independence might struggle to pronounce is necessarily a great move, TBH.LearnGaelic Dictionary
Search the English to Gaelic LearnGaelic dictionary for words, phrases and idioms with audio sound files.www.learngaelic.net
Not at all. my suggestion is that it is irrational to judge an entire organisation on the basis of one members appalling activities, even if that member had some seniority of 'rank'.
no-one thought the entire SWP were rapists, we thought they were rape apologists. Were you a member?
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
He is the entire organisation.
danny la rouge
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It only exists because of his activities. That’s it. It’s not incidental. It’s the Sleepy Cuddles Party.
Its a question of potential vote size, not ideology. Whether people like it or not, Salmond still has considerable sway in Scotland, way more than the Greens, who have tempte me in the past. Many Salmond supporters, some of whom will be decent human beings, accept the verdicts offered by the courts, and are prepared to ignore the stench. These are simple truths which are not going to be influenced much in the next 6 weeks.
i doubt that. Apparently he has received encouragement from several sources.
danny la rouge
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That's his "halibet" mantra which he uses when mesmerising dolphins.
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