Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[butchersapron]

On priviliege

Dear whitepeople, straightpeople, cispeople, men: it's not about you. The work that anti-racists, feminists, queer activists and other equality agitators do to combat privilege and prejudice actually has nothing to do with you. No really, listen up.

Class politics has nothing to do with you then right?

(p-lease penny haters, read this one in full - it's truly astonishing)

 

[butchersapron]

First broadcast Thursday 4th November

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vky79#broadcasts

edit: That means it was a repeat doesn't it? was the strike the friday/saturday or thursday/friday?

I think so. Maybe we just saw a glimpse of the future.

 

[butchersapron]

The poor oxbridge prostitutes

No, she means prostitutes

Finger on the mutha-fucking pulse.

 

[butchersapron]

We are the mods! we are the mods!

Labour's new cohort knows what it's like to lose. We are, after all, the lost generation. We don't expect our dreams and ideals to be realised without a fight, and we don't expect much help from the grown-ups. There is a profound sense at this party conference that the elder generation of Labour statespeople has failed us, and that the time for deference is finally done. "Young Labour is buzzing with ideas, enthusiasm and anticipation of what can be achieved following this conference," said Tarry. With the politicians who saddled us with debt, tanked the economy and took us into Iraq shuffling off into the twilight, one thing's certain: it's our turn now.

 

[audiotech]

..the elation of 1997.

Priceless.

 

[Sgt Howie]

First broadcast Thursday 4th November

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vky79#broadcasts

edit: That means it was a repeat doesn't it? was the strike the friday/saturday or thursday/friday?

It was the Friday/Saturday, although it wouldn't have surprised me if she'd scabbed given her position on unions.

It's always amazed me that people can get paid to basically have opinions, but it stands out even more when those opinions aren't even all that well thought through. Still, she's spotted a niche and none of the people commissioning her care especially whether what she writes makes sense.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

She's very popular with some of the Libcom lot.

 

[Proper Tidy]

She's very popular with some of the Libcom lot.

Why?

 

[killer b]

is 'revivify' even a word?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Why?

She's very good friends with Sunny Hundal, editor and founder of LibCon.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

LOL. Liberal Conspiracy, not students carrying massive photoshopped spanners.

 

[frogwoman]

what's her position on unions, i must have missed it?

 

[butchersapron]

They're ok as long as they do what she wants.

 

[imposs1904]

She's very popular with some of the Libcom lot.

the anarchists?

 

[Proper Tidy]

Libcon or Libcom?

 

[frogwoman]

They're ok as long as they do what she wants.

Got a link, this could be good i find her endlessly hilarious lol

 

[butchersapron]

Got a link, this could be good i find her endlessly hilarious lol

I've no idea what her union position is tbh - i was just extending her general view of the oldsters who can't get the internet on their phones to a specific group...

 

[frogwoman]

ah ok gotcha

 

[frogwoman]

The poor oxbridge prostitutes

No, she means prostitutes

Finger on the mutha-fucking pulse.

good god

 

[IC3D]

the anarchists?

I've got a feeling she was one of the vocal lib/feminists that shouted down the sex workers at the 2009 bookfair, what a cunt.

 

[ViolentPanda]

is 'revivify' even a word?

Yes. Poncy, though.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Libcon or Libcom?

Libcom the anarchist website. There's a thread on her in the news forum, even some of the admins seem quite taken with her.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Libcom the anarchist website. There's a thread on her in the news forum, even some of the admins seem quite taken with her.

How odd

 

[ViolentPanda]

How odd

Maybe she's wank fodder for some bunch of lifestylers?

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Libcom the anarchist website. There's a thread on her in the news forum, even some of the admins seem quite taken with her.

This thread?

http://libcom.org/forums/news/penny-vs-callicinos-27122010

 

[LLETSA]

No real people have ever heard of Laurie Penny. Or Jasmin Omond.

 

[ViolentPanda]

No real people have ever heard of Laurie Penny. Or Jasmin Omond.

They may have had the misfortune to hear of Tamsin Omond, though.

 

[LLETSA]

They may have had the misfortune to hear of Tamsin Omond, though.

Tamsin then. Nobody heard of.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I always had doubts about you lot being real, and the internet generally. Always suspected I was a brain in a jar.

 

[LLETSA]

I always had doubts about you lot being real, and the internet generally. Always suspected I was a brain in a jar.

No matter how bad things get, real people will never allow themselves to be led by somebody called Tamsin.