Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[equationgirl]

You mean he's stalking us now?

Ooh, Malcolm, you master-strategist, you! That'll teach us limey haters

Yes he is Had he not tweeted about it, we wouldn't know. Genius, that one, not ignoring us yet saying he is. Malcolm, you're a card!

 

[Firky]

Malcom, we are just all going to assume you wanted to fuck a pre-pubescent hermoine unless you arrive here to say otherwise

I'd like to know why he thinks subsidising porn is going to reduce rape and sexual assault.

One of the most batshit theories I have come across.

 

[muscovyduck]

have you bastards been tweeting him? I bet you have.

Only a little bit!
He'd have to be a lurk to rival even myself to find the connection between any tweets and this thread to be honest, and he'd have found the thread first. I think.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

Much as I'm enjoying the show, I have to admit that I missed some key information from the start of this episode: Why do we hate this Malcolm dude in the first place? Can someone give me the Cliff Notes version? Isn't he just some guy who puts out a minor social democratic magazine?

 

[DotCommunist]

I'd like to know why he thinks subsidising porn is going to reduce rape and sexual assault.

One of the most batshit theories I have come across.

how does it even need subsidising, we all know the places to find it for free

 

[weepiper]

Much as I'm enjoying the show, I have to admit that I missed some key information from the start of this episode: Why do we hate this Malcolm dude in the first place? Can someone give me the Cliff Notes version? Isn't he just some guy who puts out a minor social democratic magazine?

Because he's a terrible wanker?

 

[muscovyduck]

He makes as much money as possible off the back of an anti-capitalist movement.

 

[chilango]

Much as I'm enjoying the show, I have to admit that I missed some key information from the start of this episode: Why do we hate this Malcolm dude in the first place? Can someone give me the Cliff Notes version? Isn't he just some guy who puts out a minor social democratic magazine?

He's the guy that charges $5000 to come and speak about #ows.

 

[equationgirl]

Much as I'm enjoying the show, I have to admit that I missed some key information from the start of this episode: Why do we hate this Malcolm dude in the first place? Can someone give me the Cliff Notes version? Isn't he just some guy who puts out a minor social democratic magazine?

He purports to talk on our behalf yet won't engage with us, preferring literary salons and writing about any topic that can be sexualised.

 

[el-ahrairah]

Much as I'm enjoying the show, I have to admit that I missed some key information from the start of this episode: Why do we hate this Malcolm dude in the first place? Can someone give me the Cliff Notes version? Isn't he just some guy who puts out a minor social democratic magazine?

he's basically a libertarian masquerading as a centre-left type. would be sad and easily ignorable but he somehow or other managed to position himself as a self-appointed expert / spokesman for occupy and now earns a living telling massive lies monetising his (non-existant) radical experience. likes really young girls and prostituted women; tries to convince everyone pornography is radical and to sent him photos of their tits. parasite wearing socialist blackface for the bucks.

 

[Firky]

how does it even need subsidising, we all know the places to find it for free

Well quite, but it is what he proposed. Not an off the cuff remark either but something he's obviously thought long and hard (there's a bit of British innuendo for you Harris) about.

Why is Malcolm Harris, perennial loser in school elections, making taxpayer subsidized porn a central issue in his campaign to become president of Maryland's student government?

He really should be asked how he can justify this nonsense in the context of a campaign that claims it will reduce sexual assaults on the UM campus and stop the University contractors from using "sweatshop" labor practices considering the well documented social pathologies that stem from pornography.

Even if he doesn't think that the production of porn is degrading to the women involved or that it encourages some men, usually physically unattractive and socially inept losers. to dehumanize women, or that women in porn often have no more options than a woman working in a "sweatshop" somewhere were there are lots of brown people he can patronize, he should realize that there is more than a free speech issue here and he's not Larry Flynt.

 

[el-ahrairah]

I'd like to know why he thinks subsidising porn is going to reduce rape and sexual assault.

One of the most batshit theories I have come across.

it's a pretty common theory amongst the pro-porn 'movement'. the two biggest problems with the argument are:

1) it assumes that men are basically rapists whose ball need draining every few minutes to protect women.

2) it runs contrary to the evidence, whereby men who rape tend also to be heavy users of porn and use it to normalise their worldview.

he's basically a woman-hating type.

 

[andysays]

Much as I'm enjoying the show, I have to admit that I missed some key information from the start of this episode: Why do we hate this Malcolm dude in the first place? Can someone give me the Cliff Notes version? Isn't he just some guy who puts out a minor social democratic magazine?

What everyone else said.

And because he looks like a smug wanker with his glasses and ginger sideburns

 

[Firky]

it's a pretty common theory amongst the pro-porn 'movement'. the two biggest problems with the argument are:

1) it assumes that men are basically rapists whose ball need draining every few minutes to protect women.

2) it runs contrary to the evidence, whereby men who rape tend also to be heavy users of porn and use it to normalise their worldview.

he's basically a woman-hating type.

So if people start collecting golliwog tokens again they'll suddenly stop being racist

 

[Firky]

He's probably "researching for a book".

 

[Favelado]

So if people start collecting golliwog tokens again they'll suddenly stop being racist

It's jam or genocide I'm afraid.

 

[SpineyNorman]

If you're going to ignore someone, just ignore them. Don't spend the afternoon tweeting about it. All the tweets about how he's totally not bothered about his UK trolls. He just doesn't care you know. Not a bit. He couldn't care less. Our awful glottal-stop infested limey moaning isn't penetrating the brownstone of his Williamsburg apartment. Nope. It isn't.

The way he's going out of his way to explain how much he's not bothered about it makes it clear to me that there's no way he's bothered by it at all. If he was he'd say he was bothered rather than saying he's not bothered.

Very keen for us to know how unbothered he is by it all.

 

[el-ahrairah]

So if people start collecting golliwog tokens again they'll suddenly stop being racist

well, i had a golliwog when i was a child and now i love black people, so there must be something in it

 

[SpineyNorman]

Much as I'm enjoying the show, I have to admit that I missed some key information from the start of this episode: Why do we hate this Malcolm dude in the first place? Can someone give me the Cliff Notes version? Isn't he just some guy who puts out a minor social democratic magazine?

It would be far easier to list the things we don't hate about him:

there aren't any.

 

[muscovyduck]

He's tweeted Firky but I can't find what he's actually replied to? Maybe it's just this thread in general?
Edit: I'm so upset that he just completely ignored my tweet to him, but he replies to Firky. omfg I can't cope with how not bothered he is

 

[Firky]

Only a little bit!
He'd have to be a lurk to rival even myself to find the connection between any tweets and this thread to be honest, and he'd have found the thread first. I think.

I asked him to join us from my other twitter account because my main one seems to be earmarked by "these types"

 

[chilango]

I suspect that he probably spotted the danger in what he was saying and had enough suss to work out some semi-plausible path out of it, but if he has got away with it (i don't know if he has) i wouldn't put it down to the content of his argument, more that the people he writes for have no understanding of what politics actually is. They think it's just a word-game, a parlour game and no effects beyond the rhetorical are to be expected from what ever you argue.

They are the sort of people who would consider it devilishly delightful to argue in the antebellum US that slavery must be preserved because it was the clearest demonstration possible of the unfree nature of that society. And once that's done, onto the next petty verbal provocation. As such these people are easily seen through by the wider class (esp that politically (formally) part of it, and have no social weight - are not really relevant.

But before someone replies if they have no social weight then why are you going on about them? If they don't matter then wtf are you on about? It must be remembered that it's their ideas that have no social weight , their arguments. The role they play in putting people off this public-left is very very real though, that's where they have some social weight (even if negatively from our perspective). The two are part of one rotten whole. Their ideas have to be idiotic, self-centred and socially meaningless if they're going to be able to play this second role of alienating people from active political participation.

Worth reminding ourselves of the political reasons to hate him too.

 

[Firky]

Malcolm Harris ‏@BigMeanInternet
@Firky no I didn't support Rahm Emmanuel against the teachers union, no I never received any $ to talk about Occupy, no I'm not a fascist

muscovyduck obviously knows more about twitter than me; it still befuddles the feck out of me

 

[Steel Icarus]

Yeah, Malc old son, read that last post by chilango/butchersapron eh ^^^^

 

[SpineyNorman]

He purports to talk on our behalf yet won't engage with us, preferring literary salons and writing about any topic that can be sexualised.

And also he does come across as a massive wrong 'un in his writings about kids, porn and fucking.

 

[muscovyduck]

muscovyduck obviously knows more about twitter than me; it still befuddles the feck out of me

If you didn't send him a tweet from that account he must be talking about this thread.

 

[Nigel Irritable]

That's a considerable rap sheet. I think I just had him pegged as a social democratic magazine type, like a yank version of articul8.

The subsidised porn to reduce sexual assault thing sounds too creepy to be real. Is everyone sure that wasn't some kind of joke? Also, why is he being bated with the young girls stuff?

 

[equationgirl]

He's tweeted Firky but I can't find what he's actually replied to? Maybe it's just this thread in general?
Edit: I'm so upset that he just completely ignored my tweet to him, but he replies to Firky. omfg I can't cope with how not bothered he is

{{{muscovyduck}}} there there love x x

 

[equationgirl]

That's a considerable rap sheet. I think I just had him pegged as a social democratic magazine type, like a yank version of articul8.

The subsidised porn to reduce sexual assault thing sounds too creepy to be real. Is everyone sure that wasn't some kind of joke? Also, why is he being bated with the young girls stuff?

If you look at his writings he keeps returned to the subject of young sexualised people in one way or another. And his porn platform is well documented. Have a look on the internet for yourself.

 

[SpineyNorman]

A question for Malcolm: If someone paid you $5k to come and speak at a meeting and someone accidentally kicked the shit out of you would you press charges?

Also, do you want a fight?