Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[tenniselbow]

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[JimW]

Laurie, I consider this kind of offensive insult-throwing to be a vicious contribution to the stigmatization of onanists. It is highly offensive to my identity group. So wrong-headed!

That's not actually "tennis" elbow then, is it?

 

[TruXta]

Another 200 pages then?

 

[tenniselbow]

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[Idris2002]

Come on now, Laurie. Please deign to lower yourself and answer the questions put to you on this thread. Engage with the plebs like you promised you would in your most recent article about yourself. Please have the debate.

 

[chilango]

She can't.

 

[phildwyer]

What was the question again?

 

[el-ahrairah]

You lot are hilarious. Really. The number of hours you've wasted ranting, hyperventilating and making up rubbish about me and stalking my friends is no doubt an enormous loss to the British left.

Do one, you corporate misery-tourist liar.

 

[cesare]

What was the question again?

I think Idris got in first with his anthropologist question.

 

[killer b]

then i think someone wanted to know what a hate-wank was.

 

[phildwyer]

I think Idris got in first with his anthropologist question.

What anthropologist question?

 

[Idris2002]

What anthropologist question?

What exactly is hate-wanking?

Enquring minds want to know.

 

[chilango]

What's your response to my point about your misuse of the concept of "tribal"?

This question phildwyer

 

[rekil]

Exarcheia is really hip. How come she never hangs out in places like Merthyr Tydfil..

Good question.

 

[tenniselbow]

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[chilango]

What exactly is hate-wanking?

Enquring minds want to know.

First time I've been called an enquiring mind....

 

[cesare]

then i think someone wanted to know what a hate-wank was.

No I got in next with mine. Then it all turned to the monetisation of hate wanking. I think.

 

[tenniselbow]

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[Balbi]

We can't have a revolution because the monty python left are too busy arguing which Frank Turner song should soundtrack it.

 

[tenniselbow]

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[el-ahrairah]

when i was a lad being a leftie was all about socialism, solidarity, and sensible shoes. now it's all about burlesque and being ambivalent about margaret thatcher.

now i'm old left, unfashionable, and the reason we can't have a revolution where we can all monetise our hotness (except ugly birds) and drink KFC tea all day.

*sighs*

 

[Idris2002]

I thought it was because butchers was being mean to Laurie?

not bad going for a man in a wheelchair.

 

[Libertad]

I'm particularly impressed that you've managed to do it all one-handed, too. Hate-wanking won't damage your eyesight, only your perspective.

And this is what passes for dialectical materialism is it lauriepenny?

 

[frogwoman]

what's made up? these are your and your friends own words you twat

 

[J Ed]

You lot are hilarious. Really. The number of hours you've wasted ranting, hyperventilating and making up rubbish about me and stalking my friends is no doubt an enormous loss to the British left.

You know, I don't think that much of private schools but you have to admit that they do what they do very well. You have so much self-confidence, no matter the facts or situation.

 

[Bakunin]

You lot are hilarious. Really. The number of hours you've wasted ranting, hyperventilating and making up rubbish about me and stalking my friends is no doubt an enormous loss to the British left.

Almost as great a loss as you and your plastic political activist/journo/hack/whatever's most lucrative and ego-boosting this week mates coining it in off the efforts of people who care enough about the world to try improving it a little.

Almost, in fact, as great a problem to the British left as people outside the mildly-pink liberal circles you inhabit thinking that the rest of the British left in any resemble you.

If you stick your head out a trench, expect to be shot at. You've stuck your head farther out than most, but what do you do when the bullets start flying? You whine about it and not especially truthfully either.

You exploit people and situations when it's career-advancing (how is that suicidal gentleman whose story you made full use of, by the way?), your prose is hyperbolic, littered with inaccuracies (it wasn't NATO invading Iraq, for starters), you engage only with people who are fawning enough while ignoring criticism when you can and deliberately misrepresenting your critics whenever you feel like it, you're arrogance is as vast as your self-awareness is miniscule and I've noticed a vindictive streak when you think you can get away with that as well.

You're about as genuine as a Bangkok Rolex and the shine has come off just as quickly.

 

[J Ed]

Interestingly, the Staggers has taken the link to the article off their website front page

 

[J Ed]

If this really is you, do email me at laurie.penny@gmail.com and I'll happily send you a transcript. I'd be interested to hear what you think you said and how it differs from what I wrote here. To prove it's you, please tell me the name of the friend you were with. I suspect, however, that this is yet another attempted right-wing attempt to discredit my work. They're becoming boring.

 

[Bakunin]

What's an 'attempted right wing attempt'?

 

[cesare]

Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it infamy etc