Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags
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el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
In fairness, about the only thing she's especially good at is writing endlessly turgid, overblown screeds that go on forever while seldom saying anything at all of any real substance.
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Silly Rabbit
did she claim to have turn up to the one in brixton as well
seems weird for someone who thinks it odd to celebrate the occasion
rekil
to menny cranks
Paid by the word so just mugging the new statesman to pay for her hols really.
Bakunin
I am Noodle's bitch.
Well, if you're paid by the word then it makes good commercial sense to be as long-winded and turgid as possible. Except when it comes to unwittingly making yourself the McGonnagall of the protest 'scene', obviously.
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Silly Rabbit
cool beans
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
i think it was mentioned on this thread earlier. she was there for about 20 minutes. according to her tweets she retreated to KFC to drink tea.
i didn't see here, but i didn't see truxta either.
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Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
That's three articles rolled into one, with none of them making anything close to a point. It's the ballooning of the issue, attempting what every other fucking hack has done - WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT BRITAIN? Are we simply pointing out the historical record, or our own personal experiences, or is what we're talking about representative of a bigger broader sweep of history which moves away from the truth, the painful reality and into the comforting safe fucking arms of airy fairy theory and bullshit.
WHAT DOES THIS SAY? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? And writing it in a way so that it actually says nothing, it actually means nothing. It's just commentary, the fucking track on the dvd with the sound man and the chap who made the tea discussing Thatcher's fine bone china set. That no-one in their right mind listens to. She's on a huge platform, with a rapt audience and she stands up and tells a story which is equivalent to that time you thought you'd lost your keys and got worried but then you found them.
Section 1: The funeral - Oh, isn't it all choreographed, obligatory Falklands reference, families damaged by Thatcher and onto a quick useless flail at stop and search.
Section 2: Thatcher Death Party - Lots of these people weren't even born, nasty right wing press, obligatory note that the left at a party can't decide on a single message -if only there was somewhere ready to unite them goes unspoken there.
Section 3: Bloody Politics - Tory bashing, followed by oh, isn't it tribal. There's no middle ground is there, and everyone's getting mean and horrible. But these stories need to be told, even if it's in a manner which doesn't tackle the actual underlying issues at stake or offer solutions, and preferably by a young journalist being paid by the word.
Arse.
WHAT DOES THIS SAY? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? And writing it in a way so that it actually says nothing, it actually means nothing. It's just commentary, the fucking track on the dvd with the sound man and the chap who made the tea discussing Thatcher's fine bone china set. That no-one in their right mind listens to. She's on a huge platform, with a rapt audience and she stands up and tells a story which is equivalent to that time you thought you'd lost your keys and got worried but then you found them.
Section 1: The funeral - Oh, isn't it all choreographed, obligatory Falklands reference, families damaged by Thatcher and onto a quick useless flail at stop and search.
Section 2: Thatcher Death Party - Lots of these people weren't even born, nasty right wing press, obligatory note that the left at a party can't decide on a single message -if only there was somewhere ready to unite them goes unspoken there.
Section 3: Bloody Politics - Tory bashing, followed by oh, isn't it tribal. There's no middle ground is there, and everyone's getting mean and horrible. But these stories need to be told, even if it's in a manner which doesn't tackle the actual underlying issues at stake or offer solutions, and preferably by a young journalist being paid by the word.
Arse.
Prostitution predates unpaid sex.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
citation needed.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
or at least, explanation needed.
tenniselbow
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TruXta
tired
Yes you did, but you ignored* me you arrogant tosser
*probably forgot what I look like
Balbi
Hey, Dean Yager!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGH
You can go after Thatcher with the vengance of a furious titan if you want, it's fucking commentary journalism - it'd be nice to see someone break from the anodyne shit. Don't even bother to style yourself after a Thompson, and stop fucking quoting your mate Warren Ellis, because you're just not that good at it. Your anger is manufactured, your language declawed, you're a neuteured acceptable rebel and you're not going to be able to escape that now.
But you could have snapped Thatcher's myth, hacked the legs off Cameron and Osborne, smack Miliband with them and trample on Clegg on the way out if you so chose to. And done it with the evidence, the numbers, the facts - given 4000 words of furious proof.
But you didn't. You just c&p'd every other fucking article going about it and spun it to show you'd been down on street level.
Right wing journalism doesn't get me this annoyed, because it's fucking good at what it does. Missed opporfuckingtunities. And if anyone says, well you do better, I intend to have a good bloody go.
You can go after Thatcher with the vengance of a furious titan if you want, it's fucking commentary journalism - it'd be nice to see someone break from the anodyne shit. Don't even bother to style yourself after a Thompson, and stop fucking quoting your mate Warren Ellis, because you're just not that good at it. Your anger is manufactured, your language declawed, you're a neuteured acceptable rebel and you're not going to be able to escape that now.
But you could have snapped Thatcher's myth, hacked the legs off Cameron and Osborne, smack Miliband with them and trample on Clegg on the way out if you so chose to. And done it with the evidence, the numbers, the facts - given 4000 words of furious proof.
But you didn't. You just c&p'd every other fucking article going about it and spun it to show you'd been down on street level.
Right wing journalism doesn't get me this annoyed, because it's fucking good at what it does. Missed opporfuckingtunities. And if anyone says, well you do better, I intend to have a good bloody go.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
Yes you did, but you ignored* me you arrogant tosser
*probably forgot what I look like
sorry
you're probably right about that.... my apologies.tenniselbow
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Idris2002
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"Some things don't change in this country and one of them is the way the far left chooses the opportune moment to make itself look like a Monty Python sketch."
Will we ever escape this tired cliche?
I just pictured John Cleese - a lifelong Liberal - rubbing his hands and cackling with glee.
Nice one
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what they've increased the broadband connection speed?
tenniselbow
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butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Tell us what you got from it then, and point out where the criticisms or wrong or inaccurate.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
She might not have the same status insofar that she is not a columnist, although her exhibitions attract people like Rushdie and Mason, but she is earning millions of dollars off of the back of people who are actually trying to make a difference and work towards a better world while she works towards promoting a kind of pornographic hyper-neoliberalism. I think that's significant and worth commenting on and analysing.
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