Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[sihhi]

x20 at self

All my posting about MC's possible currents of anticapitalism - was after all arrested when returning to the pavement was demanded by an NYPD thug - blown to a dozen pieces in one fairly vile nationalist-capitalist swoop.

 

[butchersapron]

I was genuinely surprised to learn that Seymour is still in his early 20s.

So was he

 

[J Ed]

Some of what Seymour writes isn't bad, I really liked Unhitched.

 

[Idris2002]

So was he

Is that what they call the cunning of the dialectic?

 

[butchersapron]

x20 at self

All my posting about MC's possible currents of anticapitalism - was after all arrested when returning to the pavement was demanded by an NYPD thug - blown to a dozen pieces in one fairly vile nationalist-capitalist swoop.

That's just rotten.

 

[J Ed]

 

[Balbi]

it's not up yet. but there is a column advertised as "What's The Point Of An Opinion Columnist These Days?", which i kind of hoped would simply be a link to this thread, but actually she says:

"To be a columnist today is no longer to stand on a stage alone, reciting marvellous soliloquies while a paying audience waits to applaud. Apart from anything else, few publications can now afford to fork out the kinds of salaries that make principled writers lose perspective. Being a columnist today is more like being a street performer – collecting coins in a battered suitcase, telling stories about a better world and understanding that the audience might change the story."

fucksake.

Do she mean that whole argument I put to her when she arrived on this thread, which she subsequently entirely rejected as not being representative of the situation?



Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

 

[el-ahrairah]

Do she mean that whole argument I put to her when she arrived on this thread, which she subsequently entirely rejected as not being representative of the situation?

we only have your word on that, of course. (best screen cap that shit before it disappears)...

 

[J Ed]

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/324194880173780993

Many a true word said in jest?

 

[Balbi]

Did Laurie just move herself closely to the Crabapple model?

 

[el-ahrairah]

https://twitter.com/mollycrabapple/status/324194880173780993

Many a true word said in jest?

well, she's avoiding the answer so i imagine she knows it'll make her look bad!

 

[J Ed]

well, she's avoiding the answer so i imagine she knows it'll make her look bad!

I asked her again in the hope I would get a serious answer and then she blocked me

 

[rekil]

it will be a tedious blend of all the mediocre, critique by numbers, left stuff that has come out so far, with a few added swear words, couple of mentions of vaginas, couple of made up stories, the usual self referential stuff about laurie herself (and possibly her vagina), the quote about blair, some cringe inducing stuff about miners and 'the north' and probably at least 500 words or so of introspective stuff about how angry she is which explains why it's taken this long for her to write something about it (nothing to do with the fact of course that she didn't have the guts, insight, connection or ability to actually pen something sooner without first reading everything that's been written so far and lifting from that)

And tea. There will be tea.

 

[rekil]

Honestly, I had never heard of Crabapple until of her association with Penny or this thread.

We had her number from the off. I think this was the first mention of her here.

If the revolution is 'delicious' vegan snacks and laurie penny stamping on my balls forever then count me out.

It involves a smattering of her self orbiting hipster mates as well.

Need photographer to shoot me doing free sketches at occupy wall street, 5-7 today. Scotch + art

 

[Nice one]

There is already a multitude of upper-middle class individuals happy to cash-in on working class struggles, protest and movements.

class struggle anarchists

 

[butchersapron]

How's the treehouse doing?

 

[Nice one]

how's fishponds library?

 

[butchersapron]

Centre of sedition.

 

[The39thStep]

Btw, Laurie, if you're reading this, this is how it's done:



http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-a-crook/308699/

Thompson was a genius in describing loathing.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Btw, Laurie, if you're reading this, this is how it's done:



http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1994/07/he-was-a-crook/308699/

 

[butchersapron]

This monetize your hotness stuff, it's the mirror image of neo-liberalism, monetize everything that was previously not monetized - capital's internal enclosures. Commodify everything including yourself. It's capitals logic presented as choice.

 

[Balbi]

There was a description somewhere of Discordia being akin to Thompson's work with Steadman. Seriously.

 

[Dillinger4]

This monetize your hotness stuff, it's the mirror image of neo-liberalism, monetize everything that was previously not monetized - capital's internal enclosures. Commodify everything including - yourself. It's capitals logic presented as choice.

disgusting

 

[equationgirl]

In the 'monetize your hotness' vein, guess who has a registered trademark in the UK...
http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tmcase/Results/1/UK00002567604

DR. SKETCHY'S ANTI-ART SCHOOL
Status Registered
Relevant dates
Filing date 22 December 2010
Date of entry in register 01 April 2011
Renewal date 22 December 2020

List of services

Class 41Educational services, namely, conducting workshops and seminars in figure drawing; entertainment services, namely, organizing and conducting live performance art events that feature live performers, dancers and models posing for groups of artists.
Name and Address details

Owner(s) name Dr. Sketchy's Anti-Art Group LLC
14 Maiden Lane, #7, New York, NY 10038,
United States of America
Incorporation state New York

 

[J Ed]

This monetize your hotness stuff, it's the mirror image of neo-liberalism, monetize everything that was previously not monetized - capital's internal enclosures. Commodify everything including yourself. It's capitals logic presented as choice.

She has gotten one of her employees to make snarky comments to me on twitter, monetize your opinions of others

 

[J Ed]

The more I think about it the more the monetize your hotness comment reminds me of the 15 Million Merits episode of Black Mirror. Make pornography of yourself for your betters or you are just ugly and lazy and don't want to get ahead in life.

 

[Dillinger4]

The more I think about it the more the monetize your hotness comment reminds me of the 15 Million Merits episode of Black Mirror. Make pornography of yourself for your betters or you are just ugly and lazy and don't want to get ahead in life.

that one really really really got under my skin

 

[Zabo]

PROF. CALLINICOS IS WERY ANNOYED INDEED​

Oh the inconvenience, the expense, it really is too bad……………​

​

LETTER TO ORGANIZING COMMITTEE OF HISTORICAL MATERIALISM CONFERENCE, DELHI​

​

Dear Organizing Committee,​

​

I was very surprised to receive your communication. You ask me ‘to withdraw [my] decision to attend’. But I only made that decision in response to an invitation to participate in your conference. So what you are in fact doing is withdrawing your invitation, as is indicated by the fact that you have already deleted me from the conference programme. I think you should take full responsibility for the decision you are actually taking.​

​

I understand of course how important the issue of rape and sexual violence is in India, especially after last December’s gang rape and murder in Delhi. It is also a very important question in Britain, and for me personally, as it is for the Socialist Workers Party. We are strongly committed to women’s liberation. We took the rape allegations against a leading member extremely seriously; the controversy over how the party handled these allegations is indicative of that seriousness. The special conference that we recently held to resolve this controversy has set up a committee to review our procedures, and we intend to use this to reinforce our efforts to combat the oppression of women.​

​

It is not for me to judge how grave the danger of disruption to your conference is. But an appeal circulated by an academic at JNU does not reflect well intellectually or morally on those agitating against my presence at the conference. This document is a farrago of nonsense that treats allegations as proven fact, cites tendentious opinion pieces as ‘reports’, and includes the laughable assertion that ‘the journal Historical Materialism is allied, and … is known to be principally operated by Socialist Workers Party members and supporters’.​

​

Since this is a conference sponsored by Historical Materialism, let me remind you that I am a longstanding supporter of the journal and, along with Marxist intellectuals of many political tendencies, a member of its International Advisory Board. I have tried to support HM’s development both in Britain and internationally. Your decision damages HM’s commitment to promote Marxist theoretical development independently of organized political alignments.​

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So I regret your decision – not just for this reason, but also because I value my long-standing connections with the Marxist intellectual left in India. In taking this decision, based directly or indirectly on interested misrepresentations of debates inside the SWP, you run the risk of compromising your own intellectual and political integrity.​

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This is to say nothing of the personal inconvenience and expense you are exposing me to by withdrawing your invitation a week after you had circulated a programme that included me as chairing one session and speaking at another, and barely a week before I was due to fly to India. This is quite unacceptable in what is meant to be an academic conference, and it is also not how socialists should behave towards one another.​

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In comradeship,​

Alex Callinicos​

​

http://ianbone.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/prof-callinicos-is-wery-annoyed-indeed/​

 

[DotCommunist]

we had this on the swappie implosion thread last week

 

[DaveCinzano]

Occupy London ‏@OccupyLondon
If anyone has details about pre-arrests for #Thatcher's funeral, please contact @PennyRed at laurie.penny@gmail.com. Keeping track #olsx

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12:01 AM - 10 Apr 13

The rather more practical Kevin Blowe adds this below:

Kevin Blowe ‏@copwatcher
.@OccupyLondon If anyone has details about pre-arrests for #Thatcher's funeral, contact @GBCLegal / @policemonitor so arrestees get support

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12:06 AM - 10 Apr 13

In other words, 50% more twidiots think it's more important to get written about by a self-facilitating media gnome than to give a heads-up to legal support.