Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags

[radgiesteve]

She still didn't use the word 'Sorry' though. Phrased it so she can pretend it was a misunderstanding. Still owes the IWCA and rest of the forum an apology, incorporating the word sorry. The overpaid lazy idiotic lying cunt. <---Oh sorry about that!

 

[Athos]

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[Firky]

She still didn't use the word 'Sorry' though. Phrased it so she can pretend it was a misunderstanding. Still owes the IWCA and rest of the forum an apology, incorporating the word sorry. The overpaid lazy idiotic lying cunt. <---Oh sorry about that!

LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MYSELF!

 

[Athos]

In Northants you are always alone

Cobblers!

 

[Ronnie Rubashov]

She still didn't use the word 'Sorry' though. Phrased it so she can pretend it was a misunderstanding. Still owes the IWCA and rest of the forum an apology, incorporating the word sorry. The overpaid lazy idiotic lying cunt. <---Oh sorry about that!

Love means never having to say your sorry

 

[SpineyNorman]

Has she also unblocked you, SN?

yes

 

[SpineyNorman]

This made me chuckle

Laura Byrnes ‏@Laura_Byrnes
@PennyRed @spineynorman78 Wow he did a great job of making it all about your statement instead of the issue you were discussing


Spiney Norman ‏@spineynorman78
@Laura_Byrnes What issue might that be Laura? More than happy to discuss it with you.


Laura Byrnes ‏@Laura_Byrnes
@spineynorman78 no thanks dude


Spiney Norman ‏@spineynorman78
@Laura_Byrnes Thought as much.

 

[equationgirl]

Throwing toys around rather than having any kind of discussion seems to be the in thing right now.

 

[Balbi]

Throwing toys around rather than having any kind of discussion seems to be the in thing right now.

NO IT FUCKING ISN'T.

 

[Captain Hurrah]

I can't begin to imagine how hard it must be for working-class people who have experience of middle-class people only as annoying busybodies (schoolteachers, housing officers, social workers, managers) to put up with the left. Not to mention how, in struggle, working-class people will often be the ones facing the eye of the storm, whilst the middle-class - by virtue of specialised skills - law, academic hobbies, journalism etc - or family riches will often escape the worst.

Thanks for your posts sihhi, always good to see you around.

 

[Ronnie Rubashov]

Just looked at twitter for pretty much the first time. Decided to see for myself...no surprises.

This caught my eye..Dave offered:

#So, who else thinks that Christmas officially begins the first time you hear 'Fairytale of New York' playing in December?#


"I could have been someone
Well so could anyone..."

Wonder if she sings along to those lines

Not looking again. I'm losing interest in her tbh. In fact I doubt I'll post about her again...unless she crops up somewhere in the discussion.

 

[Steel Icarus]

yes

Then can you ask her to unblock me. I'm distraught she lumped me in with you racists.

 

[smokedout]

technically working class

CLASS POWER!

no she just had savings after leaving oxford and a small inheritance

 

[DotCommunist]

'son, I want you to have these unscratched scratchcards. Also there is a Marillion album in vinyl I have been saving for you'

my inheritance. And my older brother will get the Marrilion album as well.

 

[DotCommunist]

he's welcome to it though. Always a poor mans genesis

 

[DaveCinzano]

my inheritance. And my older brother will get the Marrilion album as well.

Lavenders red, Penny Penny, lavenders violet
When we are smeared, Penny Penny
You will be silent

 

[Belushi]

he's welcome to it though. Always a poor mans genesis

You say that now but its exactly the kind of thing that starts family feuds

 

[Citizen66]

Just popping in to give a heads up to those dedicating lots of time to this that what cd freeleech has started.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Heading back to the UK tomorrow. Tired and drained emotionally and physically. Being without a place to live is so wearing.

You should try having no place to live and no means of getting anywhere, kid. I did it for a while in the early 90s with no choice, and it was a bit more than fucking wearing.

 

[DotCommunist]

You say that now but its exactly the kind of thing that starts family feuds

If looks could kill he probably will in wills without frontiers, dadrock without tears

 

[Ronnie Rubashov]

#Heading back to the UK tomorrow. Tired and drained emotionally and physically. Being without a place to live is so wearing.#

Normally I'd offer, but we're going round my mam's.

 

[DotCommunist]

#Heading back to the UK tomorrow. Tired and drained emotionally and physically. Being without a place to live is so wearing.#

Normally I'd offer, but we're going round my mam's.

I feel so sad for her, how is she going to find a place to live when she earns more in a week than most of us scratch per quarter

 

[Athos]

Nowhere to sleep. Must be like being a day girl amongst boarders.

 

[BlackJamaican]

What do you mean 'again?'

This article, or response, or whatever it is, has only just been linked to from this thread. The one which announces:

''... a point that was made quite often to me on the doorstep by white working class men and women was why was it when every other culture was encouraged to celebrate their identity, when they wanted to celebrate their English / British identity, they were dismissed as racist. For the record, the majority of these people had no problem with other cultures celebrating their identity, all they wanted was a chance to celebrate their own.''

And it's the same article that seems to discourage immigrants from celebrating their ethnicity, suggesting instead that they should celebrate being British. Or seeming so to suggest at least.

One does not have to be Laurie Penny to find such suggestions reprehensible.

No BlackGuys are involved in this thread.....your all having a pointless discussion!!

 

[Athos]

No BlackGuys are involved in this thread.....your all having a pointless discussion!!

What makes you think that no black guys are involved?

 

[Ronnie Rubashov]

No BlackGuys are involved in this thread.....your all having a pointless discussion!!

I'm no expert. I'm a recent arrival...but I think it's under quota on Chinese, Asians,Scousers and trans black women too. Then again, wouldn't it be great to know they're here but they just didn't feel the need to say so. Maybe they haven't had the message that it was...drumroll...all about class. I wonder why not? I wonder which message took its place?

 

[ViolentPanda]

No BlackGuys are involved in this thread.....your all having a pointless discussion!!

And you know the ethnicity of all the posters on this thread ...how?

I suspect you're making assumptions. A bit dodgy, that. A little bit racism.

 

[The39thStep]

Just to make my own position clear:

I think it's good for black people to celebrate being black.

But I think it's bad for white people to celebrate being white.

Is there anyone here who would disagree with that?

I'll explain why I hold my position if I need to. But I'm assuming (or at least hoping) that I don't need to.

 

[Nice one]

no she just had savings after leaving oxford and a small inheritance

so laurie penny really is the michael foot of her generation?

 

[Bakunin]

You should try having no place to live and no means of getting anywhere, kid. I did it for a while in the early 90s with no choice, and it was a bit more than fucking wearing.

Wearing? Yep, it's wearing all right. Especially for anyone lacking independent means, pretty sizeable annual earnings compared to most people, a high public profile and a circle of groupies who can always be relied on to provide crash space. It's also pretty wearing for anyone who's got a substance problem and is trying not to relapse, or a mental health problem, or they've had their benefits sanctioned and/or taken away completely leaving them with nothing at all to live on except other people's kindness.

Yes, LP, it's definitely wearing...