TruXta
tired
Less so when she has chosen her own life to make a media story of.
Alex Callinicos/SWP vs Laurie Penny/New Statesman Facebook handbags
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Blagsta
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Dunno tbh. Although this did come up in class the other week when discussing careplans for an anorexic case study. The suggestion was made about helping this patient feel good about themselves via makeup, feeling feminine etc. I raised the point that "feeling feminine" and wearing makeup were very much value judgements and very culturally/socially loaded things. Careplans should be person centered, but this doesn't always happen. I can imagine a situation where a certain take on femininity was encouraged on a ward, yes. Shit practice, but shit practice happens a lot in mental health.
Blagsta
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Who knows in this case?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I don't agree.
Blagsta
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Yes.
I don't know but even I, author of the cartoon, think this is starting to turn for the worse.
TruXta
tired
Why?
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
However if what others have posted is correct about consultant behaviour, it means the consultant(s) did force that upon a teenage patient.
(I think it's an unclear writing style that's the problem. That's what I'm coming round to.)
Blagsta
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although this too
It is.
TruXta
tired
It's tricky tho. On the one hand she's brave to put stuff about her MH issues out there. OTOH.... well.
Blagsta
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Not all consultants are like that though. However, a lot of mental health is about control and imposing certain views on people about their condition. Its complex.
Yeah...but nobody's doubting the fact of the anorexia, just the course of treatment she describes, which seems at best irrelevant and at worst distinctly harmful....
or possibly just 'imaginatively reinterpreted' for artistic/ polemical considerations....sorry, there's a word for that but I can't remember it.
Blagsta
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Yeah, complicated issues.
ska invita
back on the other side
bad taste hasnt stopped this thread yet, cant see what would
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
Lots of mental health treatment is distinctly harmful. Better than it was, but...
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I don't see why what you said makes speculating on Penny's past mental health any less distasteful.
TruXta
tired
Fine.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
It doesn't suprise me, I've seen all manner of 'corrective' behaviours set down by psychiatrists - especially if any gender/sexuality related issues are 'apparent'.
TruXta
tired
No more than the other pages and pages of drivel.
sihhi
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered
Fine. I'm stopping because it's considered wrong, but I never post on other posters' health (mental or otherwise), this is someone who has long overcome their condition writing about it for educative (examining sexism in the 2000s) purposes. I don't think the article succeeds (that has nothing to do with health or suffering).
edit to add: Writing about it in a free to access publication with her real name, explicitly about her past experiences.
I have lots of memories of my recent medical treatment, most of which are probably grossly inaccurate. Such ist he way when you're in highly emotional and full of drugs. I was convinced I was left to lie in my own shit overnight but it turned out that it was only an hour.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
There is that...
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
To paraphrase my preferred colour-named commentator, in many ways this thread is a lot like life.
Ok possibly I stand corrected...but it still seems odd...this was the 21st century we're talking about and, speculating admittedly, probably near Brighton. The article sounds more like Donegal circa 1956.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
It's the writing that's being speculated about, not the fact that she has had anorexia. We all know mental health issues and treatments are complicated and that MH professionals may apply different treatments. Certainly no-one is mocking her illness or doubting this part of her life in any way.
What I'm trying to look at is her viewpoint that anorexia is a) a capitalist disease and b) complicated by gender/sexual identity politics.
However, comparing and contrasting some of the articles she has written on this topic are slanted heavily towards different readerships - see the New Enquiry piece vs that in the Evening Standard, and I think what they have in common with other pieces she has written on other topics is their chameleon-like nature. I'm not even convinced there is a coherent political standpoint underpinning her work.
What I'm trying to look at is her viewpoint that anorexia is a) a capitalist disease and b) complicated by gender/sexual identity politics.
However, comparing and contrasting some of the articles she has written on this topic are slanted heavily towards different readerships - see the New Enquiry piece vs that in the Evening Standard, and I think what they have in common with other pieces she has written on other topics is their chameleon-like nature. I'm not even convinced there is a coherent political standpoint underpinning her work.
TruXta
tired
Things like these make me think - well, she's only 26, why expect her to have all the answers? OTOH... well.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
i'm sure it does work fine for some, it's just that it doesn't really need to be part of one's identity. if i am in a monogamous relationship through choice, am i no longer part of the polygamy identity? am i still in the gang?
e2a actually this is possibly for a different thread. i'm not sure my own personal revelations regarding this particular identity and my position are entirely relevant.
TruXta
tired
Polyamory is perfectly compatible with monogamous relationships AFAIK. It's the old thing about separating deeds from identity or intention. If the expectation between a regular couple is that the relationship can take more people, then that's polyamory in my book. Anyway.... ain't what the thread's about mate.
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