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inva said:
I tried googling but couldn't find much could you give some examples? And more significantly were any of those industries nationalised under current EU state aid rules?
I had a look at this on wikipedia and scanning through it couldn't find anything really but I'm sure it's not a full list. Obviously there are state owned companies but my understanding is that industries as a whole are to be subject to competition. One of the few examples on that link is French public transport RATP Group except due to EU law it is currently in the process of being marketised with private sector companies brought in.
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For example, RFI railway network in Italy, which, last time I was there, cost very little to travel a good distance (unlike here in Blighty).

Also, here's a list of state owned industries in Germany. And here in Portugal. I could go on but can't be arsed. Either way, the "...but nationalisation..." Lexit argument was pure imaginary bollocks.
 
Serge Forward said:
For example, RFI railway network in Italy, which, last time I was there, cost very little to travel a good distance (unlike here in Blighty).

Also, here's a list of state owned industries in Germany. And here in Portugal. I could go on but can't be arsed. Either way, the "...but nationalisation..." Lexit argument was pure imaginary bollocks.
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When you said state owned industries I took that to mean more than individual companies. The German list for example is of SOEs, which as I said obviously exist, and includes Volkswagen, I don't think that is what Lexiters had in mind when they criticised EU state aid rules. I wasn't able to open the Portugal link so not sure what that is. In the case of the RFI, although it's a long time since I read up on EU stuff and I'm not sure if there's any particular rules concerning infrastructure, I think I would be right in saying the railway industry as a whole could not be legally nationalised.
 
Serge Forward said:
For example, RFI railway network in Italy, which, last time I was there, cost very little to travel a good distance (unlike here in Blighty).

Also, here's a list of state owned industries in Germany. And here in Portugal. I could go on but can't be arsed. Either way, the "...but nationalisation..." Lexit argument was pure imaginary bollocks.
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The full nationalisation argument was specifically about rail as I remember . The RMT sought counsels advice and it was that the private sector under EU law has a right to bid for contracts . The Fourth rail or something. I think this came into practise last year or year before . Most transport systems are mixed with state and private . The state can provide subsidies to the private sector companies to keep fares down .

The document about Portugal included the SNS ie the health service which commissions the private sector for a large amount of diagnostic work compared to the UKs NHS and there are often charges which we don’t pay in the U.K. I’ve been sent by the SNS medical centre for an ECG, blood tests , X-rays , scans etc all done at private companies . The document also mentions TAP the airline which has been the subject of continuous debate if being privatised for around four years under the Socialist Party and is almost certainly going to be under the Social Democrats . Across Europe there was following the example of both Thatcher and Blair whole scale privatisation of national entities in the 1990s onward . The largest electrical supplier here for example is EDP which is Chinese owned.

Although there has been some fairly recent examples of state intervention ( ie Germany with failing manufacturing firms and France with energy ) the EU regulations on state deficits for public spending undoubtedly push and open up privatisation or at least an increased presence of the private sector into health and other public services .
 
inva said:
One of the few examples on that link is French public transport RATP Group except due to EU law it is currently in the process of being marketised with private sector companies brought in.
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Due to that being the will of the French government, really. It's own legal advice told it it was not so obliged.
 
Who says there's no good Brexit news? Look, despite the naysayers, here's proof that when the EU EES system becomes mandatory for UK citizens entering the supra-state in October, "there will not be long queues of cars at its terminals."

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Some choice quotes from the piece:

Eurotunnel chief executive Yann Leriche said journeys would take five-to-seven minutes longer, but extra lanes and technology mean the process will go smoothly.
Yann Leriche, the chief executive of Eurotunnel operator Getlink, told the BBC that travellers "will simply [get] out of their car, spend a few minutes on their kiosks, and go back to their car and continue their journey”.

He said it would take “five to seven minutes extra to get through”, but added “as we have extended the number of lanes, there will be no delay on the highway, nothing. It will happen in a very smooth manner”.
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and anyone who's ever used Dover will be able to immediately tell that they'll be no issue at all with...
At the Port of Dover, the plan is slightly different.

Port staff will have iPads for car passengers to register their information.

Coaches will be processed off-site at the Western Docks, with e-gates or kiosks.
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'kinnel
 
I mean, WCPGWWT.....

I tried out one of the prototype machines which Eurotunnel will use at its terminals.

First, it took a scan of my passport.

Next, the machine then took a photo of my face.

I was then asked to put my right hand on another scanning pad, which recorded my fingerprints.

A series of questions about my journey followed on the touchscreen, to which I had to answer "yes" or "no".
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gosub said:
If there was red tape stopping it ..it was council level and to due to concerns for blind people and like walking into things on the pavement
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I gotta say I really find it doesn’t often work well here. Maybe that’s cos I live here and it just gets in the way of walking half the time - but I feel it’s usually just not in a good place to do it as the tables spill out in to the road (usually a main road cos we don’t have many piazzas here) and takes up most of a tiny and rather crappy pavement
 
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philosophical said:
I see one of the major problems caused by those who voted leave is still current.
Who’d have thought it eh?


www.bbc.co.uk

Irish Sea border returns to Northern Ireland politics

The border had been modified, simplified and repackaged in subsequent deals but is still there.
www.bbc.co.uk
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i know theyve smoothed that Irish border out as much as possible but theyre still to introduce the border regime at Dover (fingerprinting and food checks)...I wonder if that will have its own parallel on that side of the border when its finally introduced in full
 
We went to Ireland for the very first time last weekend and was surprised to see that on arrival back at Gatwick, flights from Ireland were treated as domestic travel and not subject to border or Customs checks. Is that scheduled to change due to Brexit?
 
T & P said:
We went to Ireland for the very first time last weekend and was surprised to see that on arrival back at Gatwick, flights from Ireland were treated as domestic travel and not subject to border or Customs checks. Is that scheduled to change due to Brexit?
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No, the Common Travel Area (CTA) will stay in place in perpetuity as far as I am aware. Or at least until Farage is PM.

www.gov.uk

Common Travel Area: rights of UK and Irish citizens

Information for UK and Irish citizens on their rights under the Common Travel Area arrangements (CTA).
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk

The Common Travel Area (CTA) is a long-standing arrangement between the UK, the Crown Dependencies (Bailiwick of Jersey, Bailiwick of Guernsey and the Isle of Man) and Ireland that pre-dates both British and Irish membership of the EU and is not dependent on it.

Under the CTA, British and Irish citizens can move freely and reside in either jurisdiction and enjoy associated rights and privileges, including the right to work, study and vote in certain elections, as well as to access social welfare benefits and health services.

The UK and Irish governments signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) in May 2019 reaffirming our commitment to maintain the CTA, and the associated rights and privileges, in all circumstances. On signing the MoU, both governments released a Joint Statement.
 
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