Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Found any brexit benefits yet?
A thank you to Brexiteers.
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Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Well it annoyed neoliberals, so that's one.
ska invita
back on the other side
aye....the sooner it loses its grandeurs of delusion the better, though it would be better if that wasnt at the cost of ever deepening poverty
prunus
Tick tock.
I’m sure you are joking to some extent, but I’m feeling increasingly humourless on this trend.
Annoying some group of people is never a good reason to support any policy, regardless of who the group is. It is sometimes an unfortunate side effect of good policy, but should always be avoided if at all possible without compromising the aims of the policy.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
This lexit mantra is so reductive. Yes, a certain type of neoliberal did oppose the UK state's departure from the trade area and political union, but other, more fundamentalist, free-market obsessed, populist neoliberals drove the campaign to exit the suprastate. I know that lexiteers have never liked to be reminded of the inconvenient truth that their desired result was exactly what the ultra-neoliberals wanted all along.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
philosophical
Well-Known Member
I don’t get it. Northern Ireland has not left the EU as voted for, so your happiness is built on a false premise.
Maybe you could sort out what happens on the land border between the UK and the EU and tell us the solution you had in mind when voting, or how all the UK can be apart from the EU right now, on equal terms throughout the whole nation as voted for.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If the six counties haven't left the eu, who are the meps for the province?
philosophical
Well-Known Member
The ballot paper was pretty clear.
_Russ_
Never not Knowingly Misunderstood
Not sure what you think you voted for, but speaking for myself, I couldnt care less about the whole sorry 'lets be as big a thorn in everyones side as possible' thing that stupid collection of fundamentalists in whatever masquarades as an Irish parliament are doing these days ...Give NI back to the Irish together with complete independence I say
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Surely not all that clear - you probably haven't noticed but it didn't say what was going to happen to the Eire/Northern Ireland border and passage of goods.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
I voted remain.
I dislike nationalists everywhere, but understand some of their stances and recognise the powerful sway nationalism has over a huge number of people.
I disagree with them, have very little sense of political patriotism myself.
I recognised that for all the faults, working with others in Europe, and the specific peace process in Ireland has been beneficial.
Leave has risked all those areas of progress for no benefit whatsoever beyond making people who think in terms of nationalism that they can go it alone.
Not only do I think they are wrong but dangerous too.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
The same as for every other part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Which hasn’t happened.
the ballot paper did not specify that all things would be the same for all constituent nations of the UK.
it wasn't a vote to end devolution.
only that the UK would leave its membership of the EU. which it has. yes even NI has.
Artists Gilbert & George on life in East London, sensationalism, and the success of their gallery
The pair spoke to the Citizen after unveiling new artworks to celebrate the first anniversary of the Gilbert & George Centre
www.hackneycitizen.co.uk
Gilber & George another proponent of Brexit rolling back from "it'll make things better" to denial "well it's not made any difference so it isn't bad" .
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Nor did the ballot paper specify that different parts of the United Kingdom would be treated differently.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
It was a very basic and negative stay/leave question with no mention of the form such a change would take, or any possible consequences. Anyone who ever says "that not the Brexit I voted for!!!!!11!!" is talking out their arse. It was so vague, it allows whichever bunch of chancers are in power are the ones who get to define it.
didn't say lots of things.
didn't say that the sun would continue to rise in the east and set in the west either.
it would have been fun trying to stuff the paper into the ballot box if that did have text of the total detail on it.
although without a time machine it would have to say "details TBD". that'd fit.
InArduisFouette
Well-Known Member
entering the 'find out ' phase of FAFO
philosophical
Well-Known Member
As far as I can see voters only needed to know four things.
What the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is.
What the European Union is.
What the word 'Leave' means.
What the word 'Remain' means.
The winners were the Leave voters.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Voters needed to know nothing more than that they were registered to vote and that the referendum was taking place.
The winners were the extreme free-marketeer, populist neolibs who bank-rolled the Leave campaigns.
T & P
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New Brexit benefit revealed
www.theguardian.com
On the plus side, I guess there's nothing now preventing medicines to be measured and sold fractions in of ounces from now on, rather than those pesky 'milligrams' that have been rammed down our throats for far too long.
Drug shortages, now normal in UK, made worse by Brexit, report warns
Some shortages are so serious they are imperilling the health and even lives of patients with serious illnesses, pharmacy bosses say
On the plus side, I guess there's nothing now preventing medicines to be measured and sold fractions in of ounces from now on, rather than those pesky 'milligrams' that have been rammed down our throats for far too long.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
I don't know whether to take you seriously or not.
I’m not sure how the latter “won” other than the vote going their way. I don’t think they got much of what they wanted in the end, eg a totally unregulated market hence why the complaints of Brexit not being implemented the way they wanted. I imagine the main winners were those who bet against the pound and those who have managed to get MPs to do their bidding on certain areas without hindrance from the EU.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Fair. Maybe they were one vermin election victory/ non-failing PM away from getting what they wanted?
Meanwhile...the great Brejoin gathers momentum.
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