A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Spymaster]

From the other thread.
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You do understand what that says, right?

 

[bimble]

You do understand what that says, right?

Does it say, with your glasses on, that people are drinking 63% less whiskey because of covid?

 

[Pickman's model]

Does it say, with your glasses on, that people are drinking 63% less whiskey because of covid?

No

 

[bimble]

No

Have you got Spy’s glasses on?

 

[brogdale]

Have you got Spy’s glasses on?

No, really.
It says that the YoY value of Whisky exported from the UK to the EU in January had fallen by 63%.
The data tells us nothing about consumption of Whisky, here or there.

 

[Pickman's model]

Have you got Spy’s glasses on?

You don't understand what that document says, do you.

 

[Spymaster]

You don't understand what that document says, do you.

She's not the only one, tbf.

 

[Pickman's model]

But answer came there none

 

[Pickman's model]

She's not the only one, tbf.

Imagine all the people

 

[bimble]

You don't understand what that document says, do you.

I think I understand what it says but tbh am not very interested in why ‘the value of exported whisky fell by 63%’ is totally separate from ‘people drinking 63% less whiskey’, in this context, unless whiskey is suddenly really cheap. I quite like whiskey.

 

[brogdale]

She's not the only one, tbf.

Yeah, but whichever way you choose to explain the numbers, they're quite obviously dire for the sectors identified. The unknown is to what extent they maintain or ameliorate.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think I understand what it says but tbh am not very interested in why ‘the value of exported whisky fell by 63%’ being totally separate from ‘people drinking 63% less whiskey’, in this context, unless whilskey is suddenly really cheap .

Less whisky is going to the EU. This does not mean there is a decline in the amount consumed commensurate with that decline because not all whisky goes to Europe. And if you're not actually interested in it I have to wonder why you've mentioned it at all

 

[Spymaster]

Yeah, but whichever way you choose to explain the numbers, they're quite obviously dire for the sectors identified. The unknown is to what extent they maintain or ameliorate.

Be interesting to see what the Feb figures were, then the March, April ...

 

[Doppelgänger]

Less whisky is going to the EU. This does not mean there is a decline in the amount consumed commensurate with that decline because not all whisky goes to Europe.

But has the amount which dropped, been offset by increased exports elsewhere?

I suspect not.

 

[bimble]

Less whisky is going to the EU. This does not mean there is a decline in the amount consumed commensurate with that decline because not all whisky goes to Europe.

Yes silly me. America has i think just agreed to drop whiskey tariffs so all Will be well.

 

[brogdale]

Less whisky is going to the EU. This does not mean there is a decline in the amount consumed commensurate with that decline because not all whisky goes to Europe.

and in the short-term, (for that is all we have post Brexit), any downturn in EU imports may well have been more than covered by pre-Brexit stockpiling. I very much doubt that the continentals' Scotch habits have changed radically in 2021.

 

[brogdale]

Be interesting to see what the Feb figures were, then the March, April ...

indeed, OTWT

 

[Pickman's model]

But has the amount which dropped, been offset by exports elsewhere?

I suspect not.

tbh it doesn't matter if all that whisky which might have been expected to go to the EU was poured into loch ness, there still wouldn't be a decline of 63% in the volume consumed or the value sold.

 

[Spymaster]

Also depends how much whisky is already sitting in EU warehouses.

Edit> as Brogdale points out above.

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes silly me. America has i think just agreed to drop whiskey tariffs so all Will be well.

Far more scotch goes there than goes to Europe anyway

 

[bimble]

This suggests that Europeans have just lately not been getting the whiskey they would have enjoyed drinking. Maybe they’ve been drinking other whiskey, or other people have been drinking it all, the whiskey the Europeans wanted, but that seems unlikely.

Brexit woes: small UK distillers struggle to ship gin and whisky to EU

Confusion over paperwork makes it very difficult to ship single pallets of spirits to the bloc

www.ft.com

 

[brogdale]

Far more scotch goes there than goes to Europe anyway

And Japan?

I seem to remember once being told that one reason why Japanese corporate chiefs tended to direct investment into the UK was because they liked to play golf here so much. What bollux; it was the draw of the still, obvs.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Be interesting to see what the Feb figures were, then the March, April ...

The tin foil army will have moved by then of course to the latest ‘shock revelation’ about the impending Armageddon as a result of Brexit (neatly ignoring the actual meltdown currently taking hold across the world economy). Fortunately we’ll be here to remind them of their latest folly...

 

[Pickman's model]

And Japan?

I seem to remember once being told that one reason why Japanese corporate chiefs tended to direct investment into the UK was because they liked to play golf here so much. What bollux; it was the draw of the still, obvs.

Wonder if it's still the still

 

[Yossarian]

According to the Food and Drink Federation, exports as a whole were down 13.8% in the first half of 2020 compared to the first half of 2019, with exports to the EU down 14.5%.

The bright spots included increases in pork sales to China, sugar sales to Norway, and gin sales to Canada.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

According to the Food and Drink Federation, exports as a whole were down 13.8% in the first half of 2020 compared to the first half of 2019, with exports to the EU down 14.5%.

The bright spots included increases in pork sales to China, sugar sales to Norway, and gin sales to Canada.

So pork bellies are up, how’s frozen-concentrated-orange-juice doing?

 

[two sheds]

More mothers being ruined in Canada then

 

[Yossarian]

So pork bellies are up, how’s frozen-concentrated-orange-juice doing?

The only oranges the British are going to be selling overseas are Terry's chocolate ones.

 

[brogdale]

According to the Food and Drink Federation, exports as a whole were down 13.8% in the first half of 2020 compared to the first half of 2019, with exports to the EU down 14.5%.

The bright spots included increases in pork sales to China, sugar sales to Norway, and gin sales to Canada.

Pork markets!

 

[bimble]

India is a massive buyer of scotch. It’s what people want as a sort of prestige gift.
And they’re being badgered by the UK Gov to drop their tariffs , as part of the trade deal.