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People seem to dislike her purely because she's suddenly got a phenomenal profile. I wish I'd fucking thought of it. Good luck to her.
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People seem to dislike her purely because she's suddenly got a phenomenal profile. I wish I'd fucking thought of it. Good luck to her.
FridgeMagnet
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I don't get that at all tbh. You're claiming she was "quite prominent in local politics and featured in the local press" - like what? Won community awards, like what and in what way that other people don't do? She was skint and wrote about it.
bamalama
don't do that
What i'm doing ,liam,is questioning the messenger,and questioning her use as an example of what people affected by poverty should be doin as opposed to what they apparently do.An example supplied by your good self,during what i can only assume is some crazy hippy phase you may or may not be goin through
What frances does is his business
I know imagine it a working class woman making a success, disgusting
I dont dislike her, was disappointed to find out shes Labour, think it's less about her and more about why it is her the liberal media have picked as the voice of poverty, a very safe pair of hands and she'll still be dining out on the tenner a week line when shes a DWP Minister'
FridgeMagnet
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Where's that come from?
Fuckin right. And I'm not even an anarchist. But I can smell the disengenuitety (sp?) off her words from a mile off.
bamalama
don't do that
She a mate of yours fridge,you seem to have an emotional tie
FridgeMagnet
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Have you not gone to bed yet? You're just building up embarrassment points.
bamalama
don't do that
Nobodies sayin that,good luck to her and her career
bamalama
don't do that
My wee fella's still teething and you're good value...
She would only be truly worthy of praise if she were an anonymous frother on some obscure talk-board.
Not content with taking action, she then has the cheek to go public with it and inspire others. Inconsiderate bastard then refuses to get preachy and worthy. Then she has the unbelievable cheek to raise her profile further by telling Jamie Oliver (just like most posters on here) that he is a dick... what a cunt eh?
and then publicly refusing to be a culinary Super-hod* for the era. The cheek! Never mind... we can still call her a cunt... not cos of anything she has actually said or done... but because of what the Right want her to have said and done.
* Super -hod was a thatcherite wet-dream in the 80's. A dimwit who did the work of 6 men... got the wages of three... carred brickie's muck in a plasterers hod... carried 24 bricks at a time instead of 12... 'there's loads of work if you wannit and are prepared to work hard'. probably crippled with arthritis now. Good enough for him. Wonder how many of his erstwhile champions in the CBI are queing up to visit him now?
What i'm doing ,liam,is questioning the messenger,and questioning her use as an example of what people affected by poverty should be doin as opposed to what they apparently do.An example supplied by your good self,during what i can only assume is some crazy hippy phase you may or may not be goin through
AFAIK she has never used that word. Nor have I. In fact she has gone to great lengths to avoid using such terms. So have I.
But that does not fit your narrative. So you consistently ignore it.
bamalama
don't do that
What i'm doing ,liam,is questioning the messenger,and questioning her use as an example of what people affected by poverty should be doin as opposed to what they apparently do.An example supplied by your good self,during what i can only assume is some crazy hippy phase you may or may not be goin through
she describes herself publicly as a labour blogger (below was may 2012, which seems to be the first mention of her living on such a low food budget)
FridgeMagnet
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The Labour blog describes her as a Labour blogger? Second of your images doesn't load.
And seriously, "she'll be dining out" etc?
bamalama
don't do that
I don't have a narrative,i have an opinion.As i've already explained what she does or doesn't do or write is fairly immaterial to what i'm sayin, which is that she's not to be held up as an example of what your average person on the poverty line can do or achieve because she's not your average person on the poverty line .It's fairly simple to grasp.She will, i believe be held up as such an example,as you did in your op which is what this is all about,but has been obscured by the rush of people to defend her as an individual.
bamalama
don't do that
I never used the phrase "poverty tourist",and marx and engels early writings on ireland were infused with a lack of understanding of the extreme poverty they saw
bamalama
don't do that
Average as its common use you know, everyday,the usual,common is that what you want me to say?
I don't think what she did is average. I think what she did was extraordinary. Ordinary people doing extraordinary things. I like that. It's something I admire in James Connolly, John McLean, Viktor Frankl, Mandela and Ghandi too.
Like I said in the OP and first few posts... it is mostly a matter of mindset and perception.
FridgeMagnet
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Why is she not your average person on the poverty line?
Say what you have to say you cowardly tosser. Fucking say what you think her background is, how we should all hate her and dismiss everything she has to say.
Do you not live in an area and community full of ordinary people who did lots of extraordinary things in their lives?
she was on the poverty line for a few months then got a book deal, that is not the experience of the average person living in poverty
really? Careful now, or we'll have to call a mod.
You have been spoiling for a fight with Bama all evening. Is this beef old?
so she should tell them to stick their book deal up their arse... and forego her chance to influence people... to keep her cred?
FridgeMagnet
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I wasn't actually replying to you at all, but how does that change her experience of living in poverty? That when she wasn't she got a book deal?
Tell me what was different. Was it that she went to a grammar school? That she... uh I can't think of anything else?
bamalama
don't do that
I think what she did was made a whole lot easier because of her background,which is the whole point,she had the mindset to put in the groundwork,to use opportunities given to her by her background.Perception is often subjective,ours is different on this one...
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