2016 Coup in Turkey?

[YouSir]

This is all so confusing.

Ain't that the truth, spectacular number of rumours.

On a side note BBC reporting seems to be quite open to slating Erdogan. Not that he doesn't deserve it, he's a cunt, but the openness to judgement might say something. Or not.

 

[ferrelhadley]

Ain't that the truth, spectacular number of rumours.

So just like every coup in history. Just with the speculation sped up by social media.

 

[xes]

looks like theyre just getting gunned down on that bridge on the bbc footage.

 

[mauvais]

Different perceptions of the role of the military, different affiliations to social blocks - reckon it could fairly easily be rationalised if you view Erdogan as being a contradiction of genuine 'Turkish' ideals.

If anyone knows how to weigh up a fight and the probable balance of power, it's mid-level military types. Find yourself outnumbered on the wrong side and it's a comparatively quick decision as to whether you comply, flee or fight. You don't need the brass once things start going wrong for you, you need to pick sides and blend in with the winners.

 

[Lord Camomile]

looks like theyre just getting gunned down on that bridge on the bbc footage.

I thought they were just ducking for cover rather than falling after being shot?

 

[brogdale]

I thought NATO allies were meant to come to aid of any member under attack?

 

[xes]

I thought they were just ducking for cover rather than falling after being shot?

there are groups carrying off injured if I'm seeing it right.
I dunno if hope I'm wrong

 

[YouSir]

So just like every coup in history. Just with the speculation sped up by social media.

Would imagine there'd be more clarity though, no matter how general. The makeup of the Turkish military can't be that much of a mystery to governments/news agencies and there must be someone issuing the declarations - haven't heard anything yet though about who that is.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I thought NATO allies were meant to come to aid of any member under attack?

In cases such as this, whose aid are they supposed to come to? The government, I guess?

 

[brogdale]

there are groups carrying off injured if I'm seeing it right.
I dunno if hope I'm wrong

That's what it looked like.

 

[J Ed]

I thought NATO allies were meant to come to aid of any member under attack?

By an external actor. There have been a few coups in NATO states - Greece, Portugal and Turkey

 

[Manter]

Live in taksim

And 3m people who have run from war find themselves in the middle of another one brewing.

 

[brogdale]

In cases such as this, whose aid are they supposed to come to? The government, I guess?

'Democratic' NATO member, innit?

 

[brogdale]

By an external actor. There have been a few coups in NATO states - Greece, Portugal and Turkey

Yeah, I was being a bit tongue in cheek...about the apparent US confusion.

 

[brogdale]

WTF is that bus up to?

 

[Treacle Toes]

leeleeperi ‏@leeleeperi 1m1 minute ago
On this day in 1974...#Cypriot coup d'état. What a strange #coincidence! #Turkey #coup #CoupinTurkey #CoupdEtat

 

[Dan U]

WTF is that bus up to?

Bit unclear isn't it.

 

[agricola]

is that a little scout car that has turned up now?

 

[brogdale]

WTF is that bus up to?

Picking up bodies/injured it would seem...looked like quite a few shot on that bridge.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Picking up bodies/injured it would seem...looked like quite a few shot on that bridge.

I don't think any were shot. I saw people cowering but didn't see what looked like anyone being shot.

 

[brogdale]

I don't think any were shot. I saw people cowering but didn't see what looked like anyone being shot.

All quite diff with grainy long-shots, but some certainly seemed to be carrying the fallen.

 

[Anudder Oik]

The facebook livemap thing is mental. People on the streets all over Turkey. Just looked at Palestine and there are people on the streets there,too. In Portugal there's a god awful merengue concert going on.

Facebook Live Map

 

[Lord Camomile]

The facebook livemap thing is mental. People on the streets all over Turkey. Just looked at Palestine and there are people on the streets there,too. In Portugal there's a god awful merengue concert going on.

Facebook Live Map

I can't get this working on my Kindle, just says the page isn't available

 

[Treacle Toes]

The facebook livemap thing is mental. People on the streets all over Turkey. Just looked at Palestine and there are people on the streets there,too. In Portugal there's a god awful merengue concert going on.

Facebook Live Map

It's mesmerising, useful and disturbing at the same time.

I've just been to a Bulgarian hip hop club night and to a wedding.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

The facebook livemap thing is mental. People on the streets all over Turkey. Just looked at Palestine and there are people on the streets there,too. In Portugal there's a god awful merengue concert going on.

Facebook Live Map

'kin hell, that's pretty amazing

 

[YouSir]

More gunfire on the live stream?

 

[Manter]

Oz- who I linked to up there ^^ is HelpRefugees Rutita1 - runs a project feeding Syrians.

 

[petee]

I can't get this working on my Kindle, just says the page isn't available

same on my phone, I'm in the states though

 

[Diamond]

Looks like the firemen are coming out on the streets in favour of Erdogan

 

[TomUS]

Edrogan should have learned from the fate of Morsi. Fuck him.....behind bars with the bastard.