2016 Coup in Turkey?

[Treacle Toes]

Edrogan bans street protests now calls for people to take to the streets.

Gunfire now in Istanbul.

People marching with tanks around Ataturk airport. No one knows whose tanks the people are marching with.

 

[YouSir]

Why would ISIS be happy about it? Polarisation and persecution of AKP supporters leading to radicalisation?

Civil War is their favourite entry point I suppose, especially given the potential for Erdogan to call out his support as a religious incitement given his reputation. Some minarets apparently calling people out onto the streets.

 

[Xenonxenon]

More gunfire

 

[J Ed]

Are the people marching with Turkish flags anti or pro coup or are they both?

 

[Xenonxenon]

People coming onto streets

 

[Lord Camomile]

If you don't have the support of the military top brass, how do you get those beneath you to follow orders and get in tanks and stand against your own civilians??

 

[YouSir]

Are the people marching with Turkish flags anti or pro coup or are they both?

Anti-Coup, apparently. Not sure there are any pro-coup civilian movements yet because I'm not sure anyone knows who's leading it.

 

[Manter]

Why would ISIS be happy about it? Polarisation and persecution of AKP supporters leading to radicalisation?

Withdrawal of Turkish army interference in Iraq, Syria, belief that some involved in coup are radical Islamists. I don't read Arabic so only know what A is telling me. He survived Isis and his brother is still in turkey so is struggling- I'm not going to ask him to read any more.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Are the people marching with Turkish flags anti or pro coup or are they both?

AJ speculation just suggested pro coup but who TF knows at this point?

 

[ska invita]

I reckon coup is US backed

 

[YouSir]

If you don't have the support of the military top brass, how do you get those beneath you to follow orders and get in tanks and stand against your own civilians??

Military top brass within government vs Military slightly less top brass who actually command troops?

 

[Xenonxenon]

Military heli attacked police HQ in Ankara reports

 

[Lord Camomile]

Anti-Coup, apparently. Not sure there are any pro-coup civilian movements yet because I'm not sure anyone knows who's leading it.

Al Jazeera was just saying "regardless of political affiliation, very few if any want the military in control".

 

[YouSir]

I reckon coup is US backed

Anything is possible. Get the feeling there's a lot of people in the White House and Pentagon wondering what the fuck's going on right now though, even if some have already made their decisions about it.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Military top brass within government vs Military slightly less top brass who actually command troops?

Aye, fair point, I suppose. Still relies on a lot of individuals signing up to a very different cause to the one they originally joined.

 

[Xenonxenon]

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[YouSir]

Aye, fair point, I suppose. Still relies on a lot of individuals signing up to a very different cause to the one they originally joined.

Different perceptions of the role of the military, different affiliations to social blocks - reckon it could fairly easily be rationalised if you view Erdogan as being a contradiction of genuine 'Turkish' ideals.

 

[Doctor Carrot]

Someone on the BBC just said 'The US doesn't support coups' I nearly choked on my drink!

 

[Manter]

Why would ISIS be happy about it? Polarisation and persecution of AKP supporters leading to radicalisation?

'80 dead in France and now turkey in a state of chaos- what wonderful days!'
'Retribution from allah bbhn on the devil erdogan'

Celebrations on the streets of Damascus too. The man didn't/doesn't have many friends- though some of those celebrating may not have thought through the ramifications.

 

[elbows]

AJ speculation just suggested pro coup but who TF knows at this point?

A lot of the AJ English commentary at the moment isn't very good at all.

 

[Treacle Toes]

periscope.tv/P1AYBOY/1BdGYVaoOXoJX … #Turkey live periscope

Istanbul

 

[YouSir]

Haber Turk
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Shots fired elsewhere, could be very grim if they decide to stop withdrawing and just go crazy. Might be their only option, can't exactly back down if you've already announced a coup and gotten tanks on the street.

 

[Xenonxenon]

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[Treacle Toes]

A lot of the AJ English commentary at the moment isn't very good at all.

I find that with all news stations to be fair so yes of course.

 

[Xenonxenon]

Withdrawing from airport

 

[agricola]

God I hope they were rubber bullets

 

[Manter]

Hassan ridha saying Chief of staff now dead.

 

[J Ed]

This is all so confusing.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Amazing live map of people broadcasting via FB.

Facebook Live Map

Zoom in and roll over each blue dot for different broadcast.

 

[YouSir]

BBC idly speculating that Erdogan has left Turkey to seek refuge... somewhere...