2014 EU/Local Election Thread - Predictions and Results

[butchersapron]

Interesting number: big two combined vote share is up on 2009

Top two i.e ukip/lab or con/lab?

 

[Roadkill]

On a lighter note than most of this morning: UKIP have failed to organise a piss-up in a brewery. Literally.

 

[JTG]

Top two i.e ukip/lab or con/lab?

Sorry, blue/red.
Explained by yellow nose dive in part I guess

 

[butchersapron]

If anyone wants to watch the NI results, you want sky 979.

 

[binka]

you want sky 979.

check your privilege - some of us are stuck with freeview

 

[butchersapron]

101

 

[Das Uberdog]

On a lighter note than most of this morning: UKIP have failed to organise a piss-up in a brewery. Literally.

hard to brag about them having to change venues because they've won too many seats and need more room...

 

[Brixton Hatter]

 

[J Ed]

The newest media anti-UKIP push seems to be in telling us all that what UKIP has achieved means very little after telling us all that they were Euroracists putting in danger the future of Britain

 

[Red Storm]

Assorted collection of far-right/fascists in the European Parliament: 1 NPD in Germany, 24 FN in France, 3 Jobbik in Hungary, 2 Sweden Democrats, 3 Golden Dawn and 4 Freedom Party of Austria.

Have I missed any?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Assorted collection of far-right/fascists in the European Parliament: 1 NPD in Germany, 24 FN in France, 3 Jobbik in Hungary, 2 Sweden Democrats, 3 Golden Dawn and 4 Freedom Party of Austria.

Have I missed any?

The Danes

 

[JTG]

The Danes

All of them? Bit harsh

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

All of them? Bit harsh

Viking bastards

 

[gosub]

What's the score with tower hamlets? Umpteen campaigns have led to a high turnout, and that's bad because...

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/05/tower-hamlets-londons-rotten-borough/

 

[Jean-Luc]

Here's the result for Oxford:

http://www.oxford.gov.uk/Library/Documents/Elections/Declaration of results.pdf

Is this the only place in the country where the LibDems got more votes than UKIP?

 

[scifisam]

All the articles about Tower Hamlets claim that there were police officers stationed at every polling station. There weren't. There were just politicians standing in the entrance blocking the way, same as last time.

I'm really sceptical about that high turn out; I'd go as far as betting that it's fraudulent. 50% of voters here turning out? No fucking way. That's higher than the turnout at the last general election.

 

[marty21]

All the articles about Tower Hamlets claim that there were police officers stationed at every polling station. There weren't. There were just politicians standing in the entrance blocking the way, same as last time.

I'm really sceptical about that high turn out; I'd go as far as betting that it's fraudulent. 50% of voters here turning out? No fucking way. That's higher than the turnout at the last general election.

it is all very dodgy, what were the politicians doing when you went into the polling station?

 

[Dogsauce]

At least it gives the racist commentators on the Spectator something to have a go at. Have your middle England bigot bingo cards at the ready.

 

[scifisam]

it is all very dodgy, what were the politicians doing when you went into the polling station?

The Labour and LibDem people were standing to the side and smiling ingratiatingly at people going in, and the Tower Hamlets First people were standing in the entrance and had to be asked to move aside (by the LibDem, as we approached the gate). I don't think they would actually have prevented anyone from voting that way, but it's strange behaviour.

The Tower Hamlets website isn't reporting the turnout yet, btw, so that number may not be accurate. If it is accurate, it's extra strange, because one whole ward couldn't vote in the local elections, but could vote in the Euro and Mayoral election, yet the local election turnout (if accurate) is still higher than the Mayoral and Euro turnouts.

I'd usually expect the Mayoral and Euro turnouts to be about the same as the locals (since you have to vote on the same day and are given slips for all of them), maybe a bit lower (since people are less bothered about them), but with one whole ward absent for local elections only I'd expect them to be higher. If that makes sense.

 

[marty21]

and they are still counting at Tower Hamlets - neck and neck Labour v TH First - 18 each - a few Tories and one more seat to come I think

 

[JTG]

Could the fact they're still counting mean that the returning officer is being extra vigilent in multiple ways because of suspected sharp practice?

 

[ddraig]

and they are still counting at Tower Hamlets - neck and neck Labour v TH First - 18 each - a few Tories and one more seat to come I think

yep!
electoral commission say "clearly there have been some issues"
no shit!
http://www.electoralcommission.org....ectoral-commission-statement-on-tower-hamlets

News release published: 27-05-2014

Counting for the local elections in Tower Hamlets will resume this evening with the recount for the ward of Bromley South.

 

[DotCommunist]

will they steal Ketterings 'late returners' 'had to have a web-handed recount' crown?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Tower hamlets counting further delayed, sky political types suggesting complete breakdown and disaster. God knows how long before they're done and the London results can get moving.

"Complete breakdown and disaster"? Now there's a surprise!
I won't speculate on why, because people who do are apparently "racist" (as Ian Hislop discovered), at least according to the mayor and some of his cronies.

 

[DotCommunist]

tbh if there has been shenanigans then I applaud this flagrant mockery of the system. While also condemning the undermining of democracy.

 

[treelover]

Tower Hamlets council has been accused of failing to prevent voters being intimidated outside polling stations. As the Press Association reports, politicians in Tower Hamlets, in east London, which still has not declared its local election results, said they witnessed crowds shouting at people as they arrived to cast their votes. Leaflets were also allegedly left behind in booths to influence voters at the last minute. Labour Mile End councillor Rachael Saunders told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "There is a real worry from a lot of people that the police committed there would only be two people per party allowed to be outside the polling stations, but in fact there were huge crowds at some, shouting at people or encouraging them to vote in a particular way." Peter Golds, leader of the Conservative group, said: "There were four people supporting one particular candidate standing outside and then, as I entered the school, there were 11 of his supporters in the playground. They were picking on certain residents and going up to them trying to persuade them to vote right up to the moment they entered the room to vote."

from guardian politics blog, not good...

 

[ddraig]

from guardian politics blog, not good...

link?

 

[butchersapron]

link?

Here. Please put links in treelover.

 

[ddraig]

ta BA

 

[killer b]

it looks like jealousy to me - the main parties would love to have the kind of support that would result in crowds of people campaigning for them. But as they don't, no-one can.