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2014 EU/Local Election Thread - Predictions and Results

They always used to have 'tellers' outside with rosettes back where my folks live (usually tories). They'd try and engage you in polite conversation, maybe as a way of endearing themselves to you (and by association their party). Was this sort of thing banned recently, or is it allowed within certain limits? This was about 25 years ago.
 
i recall the first time I exercised my franchise. A woman in a red rossete asked 'first time voter?' as I left. 'Yes' I responded. I'd voted for Blair. I have never since cast a vote out of anything other than spite.
 
yea
as long as you are not blocking the way and in peoples faces then you can from a distance
had to clear one from the path who had a film crew with them a few years ago due to complaint from opposing candidate
 
Dogsauce said:
They always used to have 'tellers' outside with rosettes back where my folks live (usually tories). They'd try and engage you in polite conversation, maybe as a way of endearing themselves to you (and by association their party). Was this sort of thing banned recently, or is it allowed within certain limits? This was about 25 years ago.
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All fine - campaigning, not so. Asking people how they intend to vote -fine. Attempting to get people to vote - not so.
 
I remember the nice old posh gent with the blue rosette asking me if I'd come far on 'that contraption' (referring to my shabby Raleigh Pioneer). Didn't win me over.

Never seen it up here in Leeds so assumed it had stopped or died out, but then I'm in a very safe seat so I can see why they wouldn't bother.
 
There was a nice old lady with a red rosette outside my polling station. Just checking off numbers from her copy of the roll.
 
I suspect where I grew up it was just keen pensioners wanting to do something useful for the party, since Woodspring will never be anything but blue (though this was probably the locals, which were more balanced, not sure I ever had a GE vote there).
 
killer b said:
it looks like jealousy to me - the main parties would love to have the kind of support that would result in crowds of people campaigning for them. But as they don't, no-one can. :hmm:
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No, it's not. The ones who were standing in the way of the entrance were not behaving the way they should. Last election was worse, with actual stuff shoved in your face and leaflets on tables in the voting room. Not on the voting tables, but on other tables next to the door.

We've had people brought in to supervise the vote because it does not work the way it should. We still don't have an official turnout because they still haven't finished counting votes.

I bloody hate that our council is corrupt, and because the mayor and his aides are bengali you're a racist for suspecting they're corrupt. Our mp is also bengali, and is there a word against her? No. She was voted in, turns up, does her job, all normal.

Do I dislike David Cameron because he's white? No. I'm allowed to dislike corruption in my own bloody council. Come and live here and see what it's like and say it's not corrupt.
 
Dogsauce said:
I suspect where I grew up it was just keen pensioners wanting to do something useful for the party, since Woodspring will never be anything but blue (though this was probably the locals, which were more balanced, not sure I ever had a GE vote there).
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It's not been woodspring for some decades!
 
scifisam said:
No, it's not. The ones who were standing in the way of the entrance were not behaving the way they should. Last election was worse, with actual stuff shoved in your face and leaflets on tables in the voting room. Not on the voting tables, but on other tables next to the door.

We've had people brought in to supervise the vote because it does not work the way it should. We still don't have an official turnout because they still haven't finished counting votes.

I bloody hate that our council is corrupt, and because the mayor and his aides are bengali you're a racist for suspecting they're corrupt. Our mp is also bengali, and is there a word against her? No. She was voted in, turns up, does her job, all normal.

Do I dislike David Cameron because he's white? No. I'm allowed to dislike corruption in my own bloody council. Come and live here and see what it's like and say it's not corrupt.
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understand your anger but no one is saying that here are they?
 
Back in the days when there was a Labour Party (before Blair) I used to do canvassing and being a teller and even knocking up (last minute chasing of promised voters). You can only really do that if you have done a full canvas and had tellers on most of the day. Those days faded away after Blair became entrenched and active membership declined.
 
butchersapron said:
It's not been woodspring for some decades!
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It's been a while!

Having poked around I think it was the '89 Euros I would have voted in, pretty sure that was the year the Greens did particularly well in that seat, polling well into double figures. Only time I would have voted back there.
 
scifisam said:
No, it's not. The ones who were standing in the way of the entrance were not behaving the way they should. Last election was worse, with actual stuff shoved in your face and leaflets on tables in the voting room. Not on the voting tables, but on other tables next to the door.

We've had people brought in to supervise the vote because it does not work the way it should. We still don't have an official turnout because they still haven't finished counting votes.

I bloody hate that our council is corrupt, and because the mayor and his aides are bengali you're a racist for suspecting they're corrupt. Our mp is also bengali, and is there a word against her? No. She was voted in, turns up, does her job, all normal.

Do I dislike David Cameron because he's white? No. I'm allowed to dislike corruption in my own bloody council. Come and live here and see what it's like and say it's not corrupt.
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I'm not calling you a racist - I made a joke about the lack of mass support for mainstream political parties. wind it in.
 
That said, I don't really give a shit about people trying to persuade other people to vote one way or another. Back in the day, they even used to actually come and knock on your door to do that. :eek:
 
Incidentally, as all this has been expected, I'd have thought the Telegraph, Mail and the like would have the area crawling with hacks for weeks - so far all I've been able to find is lurid allegations from partisans. Actual facts seem a bit thin on the ground.

This from the spectator, mainly sourced from the leader of the tory group is my favourite so far...
 
Nerd point: party persons asking for your poll number outside the polling station is to check you against the promises they've had whilst canvassing. In theory, if your number hasn't been through the polling station they will knock on your door later, maybe even offer you a lift. In my distant past as a Labour member it was called 'The Reading System', after Ian Mikardo who was, presumably, MP there. Basically carbon copied pads of your vote promises.
 
indeed - one of my first jobs as a cub (as well as tramping round in the rain delivering leaflets) was cycling between the polling stations on polling day and taking the numbers back to the nerve centre so supporters could be ticked off.
 
killer b said:
indeed - one of my first jobs as a cub (as well as tramping round in the rain delivering leaflets) was cycling between the polling stations on polling day and taking the numbers back to the nerve centre so supporters could be ticked off.
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It's a bit of a milgram experiment really. Most people offer up their number from what I remember, even in some cases forgetting their card but telling you on their way out. The proper response should of course be 'fuck off nerd'.
 
killer b said:
Don't most people know why, and give their number to avoid getting knocked up later?
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Yeah, absolutely - and because the number takers are right on the door of the poll station they look to be 'official'.
Even if they aren't actively campaigning, the returning officer should really tell them to sling their hook - because number taking is still part of the process of getting the vote out.
 
Further nerd point: 'back in my day' we used to give lifts to anyone who wanted one (usually as a result of a canvasser asking someone who says they will vote for you and is maybe elderly) - as well as offering lifts when knocking the vote out on the night. Has that all ended now? Must be a host of health and safety/car insurance/nonce issues with random politicos offering lists?
 
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