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Wikileaks - It's time to open the archives
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Assange posted up the complete collection of secret "church" documents, back in the early inception of the Project Chanology thing against the cult. So he was a key player in that side of Anonymous action.
xes
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I'll presume you're talking to someone else, and not me, as nowhere in this thread have i mentioned scientology (appart form there)
Protest tomorow 11am for Assange. Gutted i can't make it, this is something i'd much rather be doing.
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Sky News has this twist to the WikiLeaks saga: Inmates at Wandsworth prison are pushing notes of support under the cell door of Julian Assange.
A source at the prison said, among several notes Mr Assange received one said:
Referring to the journalists' club in London where he was staying before his arrest
A source at the prison said, among several notes Mr Assange received one said:
Referring to the journalists' club in London where he was staying before his arrest
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
An interesting article:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/07/cryptome_on_wikileaks/
Ninety-nine percent of the universe is probably not what it appears to be.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/07/cryptome_on_wikileaks/
Ninety-nine percent of the universe is probably not what it appears to be.
From what I have read, Mr Assange did not actually commit "rape" or anything like it. In Sweden, does "rape" include doing it with two girls who then dislike you when they each find out you've been doing the other one? Oh, and having a rubber split?
These charges are trumped-up.
Giles..
These charges are trumped-up.
Giles..
Barking_Mad
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Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
It's hard to say there's so many conflicting reports of the time line going around and confused opinions about the charges...
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
He shagged a few groupies. It's not like he stuck a telephone up anyone's cunt and got them to ring their mother.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Well maybe or maybe he did force himself on them and this was rape. He's innocent till proven guilty but these are serious allegations that should be answered.
Corax
Luke 5:16
All allegations of rape should be investigated fully I agree.
But if this was anyone else, it's massively unlikely (had it been in the UK anyway) that the police would have pursued a case like this at all*, let alone him having bail refused. The Interpol notice takes it into the realms of the surreal.
Leaving aside his guilt or innocence until due process - his treatment so far reeks to high heaven of political motivation.
*I'm not saying that's a good thing, just making the comparison.
Quite, I wouldn't make a judgement in either case but a suspected murderer in possibly two cases gets bail and Assange doesn't?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I think that's a fair observation, just don't like the idea that rape or sexual assault charges can be so readily dismissed just because we like the person. I'd have the same attitude if it was Chomsky on a charge like this or Norman Tebbit...
Barking_Mad
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Excellent article by Henry Porter.
guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/11/henry-porter-wikileaks-cables
guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/11/henry-porter-wikileaks-cables
I completely agree.
But, he had 'no case to answer' in the summer. Perhaps that was his warning to back off with wikileaks. Now he's persona non grata he magically has a case to answer again.
Rape is a serious crime that shouldn't be taken lightly. So why have the Swedish authorities pissed around like this? Is it any wonder that people are now questioning the timing and political relevance?
teqniq
DisMembered
Tbh I think we should tell the American 'government' to Fuck. Right. Off. And Gary McKinnon too.
If their security systems wern't so woefully inadequate in the first place, they wouldn't find themselves embarrassed in this fashion.
And that's partly whats's pissed them off: It makes them look like the arseholes they are.
If their security systems wern't so woefully inadequate in the first place, they wouldn't find themselves embarrassed in this fashion.
And that's partly whats's pissed them off: It makes them look like the arseholes they are.
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Those are some pertinent points but he does have a case to answer now. It is strange that this went nowhere until a politician decided to push for it to be revisited...
newbie
undisambiguated
It would seem naive to think the bod figureheading Wikileaks could continue to swan around the world while upsetting the Yanks like this. I'm not sure he'd have predicted calls for assassination, but certainly must have expected serious American attempts to have him locked up. So even without the Swedish issue surely he'd have planned a strategy to ride out the storm in a safe haven where he could anticipate resistance to extradition requests.
Then there's the warrant from Sweden which, ok, maybe he didn't think would resurface, but even so it's part of the background.
So why did he choose to be in Britain when the balloon went up? This is a close ally of the US, implicated in their wars, the most Atlanticist of the Europeans countries, home of the 'special relationship' and, crucially, with a heavily imbalanced extradition treaty with the US- apparently unwilling or unable to protect McKinnon in a case with clear parallels. We're also tied in to Interpol and likely to be responsive to whatever comes from Sweden.
There are countries around the world seemingly less tied to the US and perhaps more likely to protect him- Switzerland, Finland, Spain, Venezuela, New Zealand come to mind or maybe his native Oz, I don't know I haven't done the research, but he (presumably) has and yet he came here.
It was clearly his choice, why choose here?
Then there's the warrant from Sweden which, ok, maybe he didn't think would resurface, but even so it's part of the background.
So why did he choose to be in Britain when the balloon went up? This is a close ally of the US, implicated in their wars, the most Atlanticist of the Europeans countries, home of the 'special relationship' and, crucially, with a heavily imbalanced extradition treaty with the US- apparently unwilling or unable to protect McKinnon in a case with clear parallels. We're also tied in to Interpol and likely to be responsive to whatever comes from Sweden.
There are countries around the world seemingly less tied to the US and perhaps more likely to protect him- Switzerland, Finland, Spain, Venezuela, New Zealand come to mind or maybe his native Oz, I don't know I haven't done the research, but he (presumably) has and yet he came here.
It was clearly his choice, why choose here?
Barking_Mad
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Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
I'd say it's predictable; swedish politician and/or public prosecutor hoping to get brownie points from unky sam
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Barking_Mad
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One of the counterpunch sources responds.
On Anna Ardin, Israel Shamir and glass houses
December 8, 2010 / machetera (blog)
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