Wikileaks - It's time to open the archives

[kyser_soze]

I want one of those masks.

http://www.escapade.co.uk/Masks-sale/Movie-Film-Masks/V-for-Vendetta-Mask.asp

 

[Barking_Mad]

Anon on Twitter say "T-24"

looks like the shit storm is about to go down again.

 

[Streathamite]

Most of Wikileaks information is failing to make the newspapers in the US, anyway. How effective is that?

i understood the NY Times - as o0ne of the 5 papers chosen by wikileaks to hook up with - is committed to running the leaks? or is that now not so?

 

[kyser_soze]

I thought Assange fell out with the NYT over something or other, and told them they weren't getting these leaks.

Yep:

http://www.journalism.co.uk/news/-c...-obtain-cables-from-the-guardian-/s2/a541748/

Looks like St Julian doesn't like his press partners criticising him...

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

i understood the NY Times - as o0ne of the 5 papers chosen by wikileaks to hook up with - is committed to running the leaks? or is that now not so?

I believe they had a parting of the ways.

In any case, its not national coverage. Try finding anything other than coverage of the possible charges against Assange in the Omaha World Herald (for instance) and you'll see what I mean.

 

[kyser_soze]

Yeah, the NYT is like the FT & FAZ - read by a small number of powerful people.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Yeah, the NYT is like the FT & FAZ - read by a small number of powerful people.

Outside of NY, its dismissed as that elitist liberal rag.

The Washington Post has a similar rep.

 

[London_Calling]

So very "liberal". Beat the drum for the acquisition of Iraq for starters.

These leaks are aiding rather than harming USA interests.

 

[kyser_soze]

Along with the Washington Post I presume? The US doesn't really have 'national' newspapers in the way the UK & Europe do.

 

[kyser_soze]

So very "liberal". Beat the drum for the acquisition of Iraq for starters.

These leaks are aiding rather than harming USA interests.

So did the Observer. BFD.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

So very "liberal". Beat the drum for the acquisition of Iraq for starters.

These leaks are aiding rather than harming USA interests.

As a creepy white dude once said "don't shoot the messenger."

 

[London_Calling]

You have to wonder what the NYT would do if they actually had anything harmful from Wikileaks rather than helpful . . .

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Along with the Washington Post I presume? The US doesn't really have 'national' newspapers in the way the UK & Europe do.

The only papers that are read nationwide that I can think of are USA Today (mass market conservative) and the Wall Street Journal (elitist conservative). If you want news you really have to surf several different sources.

 

[kyser_soze]

You have to wonder what the NYT would do if they actually had anything harmful from Wikileaks rather than helpful . . .

Publish it then run lots of editorials saying they are a Very Bad Newspaper

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

You have to wonder what the NYT would do if they actually had anything harmful from Wikileaks rather than helpful . . .

They got called "traitors" for publishing what they did print.

 

[audiotech]

or v for vendetta

Speaking of 'V for vendetta'.

'Viewer discretion advised.'

http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2010/12/15/ac.school.board.gunman.cnn.html

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Speaking of 'V for vendetta'.

'Viewer discretion advised.'

http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/crime/2010/12/15/ac.school.board.gunman.cnn.html

Further proof that SF fans shouldn't be allowed out on their own.

You have to give the broad with the purse some credit for balls, but she should have used the handle as a garrot instead.

Or, she could have used a frying pan like this 71 yr old Kansan:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40685243/ns/us_news-weird_news

 

[Barking_Mad]

0wned.

WikiLeaks: Swedish government 'hid' anti-terror operations with America from Parliament
The Swedish government asked American officials to keep intelligence-gathering “informal” to help avoid Parliamentary scrutiny, American diplomatic cables released by Wikileaks show.

The secret cables, seen by The Daily Telegraph, disclose how Swedish officials wanted discussions about anti-terrorism operations kept from public scrutiny.

They describe how officials from the Swedish Ministry of Justice and Ministry of Foreign Affairs had a “strong degree of satisfaction with current informal information sharing arrangements” with the American government. Making the arrangement formal would result in the need for it to be disclosed to Parliament, they said.

They disclose officials’ fear that intense Swedish Parliamentary scrutiny could place “a wide range of law enforcement and anti-terrorism” operations in jeopardy.

Under the heading “teams visits to discuss terrorist screening information exchange with Sweden”, they show Dr Anna-Karin Svensson, Director of the Division for Police Issues, saying the Swedish government would strike controversy if its intelligence methods were disclosed.

The cable claimed that the "current Swedish political climate makes any formal terrorist screening information agreement highly difficult". Swedish citizens are said to place high value on the country’s neutrality.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-operations-with-America-from-Parliament.html

Interesting the Torygraph has gone with this one and not the Guardian.

 

[pk]

 

[Barking_Mad]

weird...

 

[Jon-of-arc]

anonymous will, ironically, be directly attributed for the architecture of a regulated internet.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

or rather they will be the reason given why we need to regulate it.

 

[pk]

Who gets to regulate global comms networks?

Nobody does. We've come too far for that.

Assange has trolled the Western world and there is fuck all anyone can do about it.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

When's all the UFO stuff coming out then...

 

[DotCommunist]

anonymous will, ironically, be directly attributed for the architecture of a regulated internet.

can't be done, so they say. By design.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

can't be done, so they say. By design.

great fire wall of china? iran? Sure there will always be some hackers who will be able to bypass such things, but for the common man it may soon get a bit more difficult to get your porn/drugs/subversive info.

 

[Barking_Mad]

great article here on protesting on the internet, rights and corporations

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/17/anonymous-wikileaks-protest-amazon-mastercard

 

[xes]

Does Karl Rove have anything to do with Assanges arrest?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/rove-connection-prosecution-julian-assange/

 

[Random]

Does Karl Rove have anything to do with Assanges arrest?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/rove-connection-prosecution-julian-assange/

Karl, well known Swedish name! Eh? Eh? All starting to come together, eh? Eh?

BTW, the lawyer for the two socialist women accusing Assange is also a socialist, and Rove is connected to the Swedish conservatives.

 

[teqniq]

Karl Rove. Well no surprises there.

For anyone interested, this could be a good starting point...