Why the lib-dems are shit

[TAE]

The Lib Dems are shit because they supported saddam hussein and want to give more money to the most educationally privelleged, eg HE students.....They also oppose ID cards and oppose bringing back hanging etc.

LOL, best post so far.

Oh and I agree with much that Corax said.

 

[Idris2002]

What's the Lib dem policy on Northern Ireland? I know the Alliance is their sister party, but say the Lib Dems ended up in coalition with the Tories - would they sell out the GFA?

 

[el-ahrairah]

What's the Lib dem policy on Northern Ireland? I know the Alliance is their sister party, but say the Lib Dems ended up in coalition with the Tories - would they sell out the GFA?

they'd sell out anyone.

 

[butchersapron]

What's the Lib dem policy on Northern Ireland? I know the Alliance is their sister party, but say the Lib Dems ended up in coalition with the Tories - would they sell out the GFA?

Yes/no/never!

 

[trevhagl]

although they have the best defence policy (ie not to piss it up the wall on nuclear weapons) i could ever vote for a party that gloated about privatising stuff (the post office)

 

[London_Calling]

I don't want a NL led hung parliament.

I just hate the lib-dems...

I do want a hung Parliament.

Butchers some moments ago:

 

[butchersapron]

Spot the difference. Anyone?

 

[cesare]

Spot the difference. Anyone?

Aye.

 

[TAE]

Not wanting a Labour led hung parliament only leaves two realistic options though and we know you hate the LD, so do you want a Tory led hung parliament??

 

[Corax]

Clarify your position, rather than playing scooby-doo?

 

[cesare]

Clarify your position, rather than playing scooby-doo?

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10556837&postcount=88

 

[butchersapron]

Not wanting a Labour led hung parliament only leaves two realistic options though and we know you hate the LD, so do you want a Tory led hung parliament??

Yes.

 

[mk12]

I don't think the Lib Dems are "shit", I just don't trust them due to their lack of clear ideology. At least you know where Labour and the Tories stand...

 

[Corax]

http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=10556837&postcount=88

Led by? That doesn't clarify at all.

 

[Corax]

Yes.

You want a tory led hung parliament. Okay. clarity at last.


Bullingdon front bench. Okay.

 

[butchersapron]

Led by? That doesn't clarify at all.

What is this juvenile attempt to trap me? It's an embarrassing lib-dem trick.

 

[butchersapron]

This, this oh you love the tories (whilst supporting a leader who makes thatcherism his central ideological ref point) is why the lib-dems are shit.

 

[Corax]

What is this juvenile attempt to trap me? It's an embarrassing lib-dem trick.

Sorry Butchers, that was posted before post #132.

You want a tory led hung parliament. You've made that clear now.

 

[Riklet]

They are no where near radical enough on the environment and shifting Britain's industry and R&D in that direction for future success...

..and they've backtracked on their drug policies to become the same old bland "think of the children" purveyors of apathy and a fucked system which shits on personal freedom.

Would rather have them out of the lovely main three though. Sorry idealists...

 

[butchersapron]

fairness you can feel

Meanwhile, the party has been allowed to keep £2.4m donated by the company of the convicted fraudster Michael Brown. It was given before the 2005 election when Charles Kennedy was leader.

 

[Corax]

You want a Bullingdon front bench though, yes? - for clarity.

Not wanting a Labour led hung parliament only leaves two realistic options though and we know you hate the LD, so do you want a Tory led hung parliament??

Yes.

 

[butchersapron]

Yes

 

[Maggot]

Because Lembit Opiks uncle Oscar was the Estonian Quisling.

That's my mind made up.

 

[Streathamite]

surprised no-ones mentioned Bermondsey, '81 yet. Their actions in that by-election were utterly despicable.
However - given that that was a long time ago - I'd say my dislike of the LibDems is that they always want to be all things to all men.

 

[ericjarvis]

Wouldn't it be quicker to write a list of the reasons why they aren't shit?


...though I can't think of any off hand.

They have relatively few MPs and therefore as a party have ripped off less in parliamentary expenses overall.

Jack Straw and Norman Tebbit are not Liberal Democrats.

That's abou it.

 

[ericjarvis]

My experience of the Lib Dems has been uniformly dire. I've yet to encounter any Lib Dem in a position of political power and influence who isn't a conniving lying hypocrite. That may just be South London Lib Dems, I wouldn't know. Though one of the two most disgusting fraudsters I encountered in student politics when I was at uni is a Lib Dem parliamentary candidate. Hopefully he has changed. I'm not holding out any hope. The other, incidentally (also a Liberal) works for Barking council.

However it can't be said that I don't have a good word for them. In fact I have two good words for them. Fuck off!

 

[FreddyB]

Yes

what do you reckon the outcome of a tory minority government will be?

 

[tbaldwin]

My experience of the Lib Dems has been uniformly dire. I've yet to encounter any Lib Dem in a position of political power and influence who isn't a conniving lying hypocrite. That may just be South London Lib Dems, I wouldn't know. Though one of the two most disgusting fraudsters I encountered in student politics when I was at uni is a Lib Dem parliamentary candidate. Hopefully he has changed. I'm not holding out any hope. The other, incidentally (also a Liberal) works for Barking council.

However it can't be said that I don't have a good word for them. In fact I have two good words for them. Fuck off!

Yes but you like Lee Jasper......So your opinion is worthless.

 

[articul8]

Butch - what is your thinking re preferring a tory-led hung parliament?

Clegg benefited from not having a record in government to defend - but we should be looking at what they're upto in local government, often hand in hand with the Tories.

 

[greenman]

I sometimes get depressed at the state of politics in this country. Often.
However, the prospects opening up are ...interesting.
Possible results:

Labour led hung parliament = massive wrangling with Lib Dems, discrediting of both, (allowing possible advances for left/greens at subsequent election, made easier if Lib Dems actually do the only thing they are useful for - gain PR).

Tory led hung parliament = massive wrangling with Lib Dems, possible unrest if Tories get their way, weakening of some of their worst attempts, possible massive dissillusionment in rightist ranks if Cameron is "liberal" in practice rather than just rhetoric and possible early further election with chance for Left/Greens to regroup.

Tory Government = Probably on minority vote that all are now aware of - potential for massive opposition and unrest and demands for electoral and political reform.

All options entail major problems for the establishment and the ruling class and opportunities for radicals - never a bad thing.