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no need to read it as this, as they've explicitly said they'll argue for a second referendum in the event of them not winning a majority.

Regardless of what they've explicitly said I wouldn't be surprised if they did start from a position of arguing for revoke in any GNU negotiations.
 
Couple of "shy Tories" (i.e. they don't self-identify as Tories at all, but always seem to manage to find some 'good reason' to vote for them, every single time) are now making the 'pragmatic decision' to vote Lib Dem because 'revoke'. Their sensible, grown up politics hasn't cottoned on to the fact that in this semi-marginal its Lab v Tory with the Lib Dems some way behind the Greens.

I won't tell them if you don't. :D
 
Couple of "shy Tories" (i.e. they don't self-identify as Tories at all, but always seem to manage to find some 'good reason' to vote for them, every single time) are now making the 'pragmatic decision' to vote Lib Dem because 'revoke'. Their sensible, grown up politics hasn't cottoned on to the fact that in this semi-marginal its Lab v Tory with the Lib Dems some way behind the Greens.

I won't tell them if you don't. :D
Your mates sound proper shit tbh. You can do better.
 
Swinson has also said she/they won't go into coalition with either Johnson or Corbyn, which would seem to limit her options.
 
Couple of "shy Tories" (i.e. they don't self-identify as Tories at all, but always seem to manage to find some 'good reason' to vote for them, every single time) are now making the 'pragmatic decision' to vote Lib Dem because 'revoke'. Their sensible, grown up politics hasn't cottoned on to the fact that in this semi-marginal its Lab v Tory with the Lib Dems some way behind the Greens.

I won't tell them if you don't. :D

Don't worry, it'll be one of Jo Swinson's 300+ seats
 
Swinson has also said she/they won't go into coalition with either Johnson or Corbyn, which would seem to limit her options.

Would guess her calculation is that there will be plenty of Labour and Tory MP's who will be open to working with her.
 
So their main policy is something they can't deliver and they rule out the only things two that might make it possible.
Rendering yourself politically useless is a great move. Not even sincere is it, its just a hopeless attempt to try and retain current polling share and avoid it being seen as labour v tory (it is though), which can and will be thrown back at them if they end up in a coalition/supply and confidence. Learnt nothing.
 
In fairness I think Swinson has ruled out working with the Conservatives whilst they have Johnson as leader and Labour whilst they have Corbyn as leader. Not the parties specifically.

That being said it means the same thing as there will be an election shortly and the tories and Labour aren't about to change their leader before that.
 
Would guess her calculation is that there will be plenty of Labour and Tory MP's who will be open to working with her.

I guess if she can win 300+ seats she won't need to find that many Labour and Tory MP's, given that she can also reckon on a handful of Green and Plaid MPs as well (and even some DUP as JimW suggests).

It's not really a calculation though, is it, it's a fantasy...
 
I guess if she can win 300+ seats she won't need to find that many Labour and Tory MP's, given that she can also reckon on a handful of Green and Plaid MPs as well (and even some DUP as JimW suggests).

It's not really a calculation though, is it, it's a fantasy...

The 300+ seats thing is pure fantasy, sure, but the coalition of the centre is what they want/hope for/expect I think.
 
In fairness I think Swinson has ruled out working with the Conservatives whilst they have Johnson as leader and Labour whilst they have Corbyn as leader. Not the parties specifically.

That being said it means the same thing as there will be an election shortly and the tories and Labour aren't about to change their leader before that.
Well, in all fairness, that is fucking super
 
In fairness I think Swinson has ruled out working with the Conservatives whilst they have Johnson as leader and Labour whilst they have Corbyn as leader. Not the parties specifically.

That being said it means the same thing as there will be an election shortly and the tories and Labour aren't about to change their leader before that.
You are one of them - aren't you? You fucking div.
 
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