Why the lib-dems are shit

[billy_bob]

People who don't drink on religious grounds aren't (normally!) expressing hatred of those who do.

So, again, why did you compare that stance to that of Christians who are homophobic?

 

[articul8]

So, again, why did you compare that stance to that of Christians who are homophobic?

I'm not. We were talking about Farron.

 

[Pickman's model]

standing in judgement of sinners is not a very authentically Christian attitude.

yeh. so now you're the arbiter of authentic christianity.

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm saying that people might legitimately criticise Farron for his voting record, or his inconsistency, but his theology should be left to those better qualified than I

standing in judgement of sinners is not a very authentically Christian attitude.

but how keen you seem to suggest you're familiar with theology

 

[billy_bob]

I'm not. We were talking about Farron.

This is like pulling teeth. OK then, why did you compare the stance of people (you did specify Muslims) who don't drink on religious grounds to what appears to be the stance of Farron on homosexuality? Given that, as DotCommunist pointed out, one is a lifestyle choice and the other is not.

 

[free spirit]

This is like pulling teeth. OK then, why did you compare the stance of people (you did specify Muslims) who don't drink on religious grounds to what appears to be the stance of Farron on homosexuality? Given that, as DotCommunist pointed out, one is a lifestyle choice and the other is not.

This was the hole I was referring to Articul8

 

[Crispy]

Surely fucking not

 

[mather]

Surely fucking not

Jesus fucking Christ! Not again!

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

I fucking knew it!

 

[BemusedbyLife]

I can't imagine that the LibDems are dumb enough to go into a coalition with the Tories again after how badly they got burned the last time, their seats dropped from 57 to 8 as their voters deserted them en-masse(including my still angry Dad) and all the evidence suggests that they are still far from forgiven.
Having talks is one thing makes sense from the Tories POV since the LibDems have 12 seats rather than the DUP's 10 plus the LibDems don't have any wild eyed crazies in the background but I can't see what May could offer them (abandon Brexit? Guarantee of PR?) that would make it worthwhile them pretty much facing oblivion at the the next election which is not going to be in 2022

 

[DotCommunist]

I can't imagine that the LibDems are dumb

a lib dem politician somewhere has just said 'challenge accepted' lol

but I don't think it can be true shirley, not again

 

[mather]

I can't imagine that the LibDems are dumb enough

I bloody well can!

The Lib Dems are so out of touch that nothing surprises me about them. I'm not shocked at this news, angry yes but not shocked.

 

[Teaboy]

Oh my life. I know it was predicted on here by several people but I just couldn't believe it. I bet this is Cable's doing.

 

[Pickman's model]

getting a sense of deja vu

 

[inva]

i for one am all for it. hit that self destruct button again.

 

[billy_bob]

It'll send a fair few remainers back Corbyn's way. That can't hurt.

 

[Teaboy]

It is our civic duty to stop this hard brexit and heartless tory cuts. The only effective way we can do this is by voting with them at every opportunity....

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Fucking lib dems

 

[Plumdaff]

Surely even the idiots that are 2017 Lib Dem voters would get the message if they did it again. I don't think there are words for how hated they'd be, especially in the context of Grenfell.

Then again they are 2017 Lib Dem voters.

 

[sunnysidedown]

Lower than a snakes belly that lot.

 

[Teaboy]

Surely even the idiots that are 2017 Lib Dem voters would get the message if they did it again. I don't think there are words for how hated they'd be, especially in the context of Grenfell.

Then again they are 2017 Lib Dem voters.

Well you only have to look at that one complaining about tactical voting to realise the calibre of them. Tactical voting being pretty much their only sales pitch for the entire campaign.

 

[Teaboy]

Just a thought but is there a chance this is just a bit of brinksmanship from the tories to put the wind up the DUP?

 

[elbows]

Only if they actually practice gay sex. Being gay is fine, as long as you keep your pecker in your pants. He's one of them

Yes. And in terms of the hell stuff, if you fall short by actually daring to use your genitals, you will be forgiven as long as you accept Jesus.

To quote from Farron himself, in his section of the book titled 'Liberal Democrats Do God' (I kid you not):

This means that anyone who puts their trust in this Jesus, will stand before God ‘clothed’ in Jesus’ goodness and purity, just as Jesus clothed himself in our rottenness and sin. This is the ultimate act of real love – Jesus was punished for our sin, and he did it willingly, not grudgingly. He did it because he loves us. Now, all we need to do to know that we can face judgement with confidence is to accept that we are a ‘sinner’, say sorry to God and ask for his forgiveness and accept Jesus as the perfect payment for every wrong thing we ever did.

This sort of belief is another reason why I dont like religious beliefs in politics - fuck up all you want and the only personal responsibility you have to take at the end of the day is to embrace Jesus, sorted.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

If they could get a major concession on Brexit, then it'd be worth it to them.

It'd fuck the Tories though, and UKIP would respawn like a bad late Dracula movie without Christopher Lee in it.

 

[Vintage Paw]

If they could get a major concession on Brexit, then it'd be worth it to them.

It'd fuck the Tories though, and UKIP would respawn like a bad late Dracula movie without Christopher Lee in it.

And it would fuck the LibDems again.

What are they going to do? Keep fluctuating between 8 MPs and 12 every other GE as they fuck up royally and then ask to be forgiven again?

Fucking cunts.

 

[Pickman's model]

And it would fuck the LibDems again.

What are they going to do? Keep fluctuating between 8 MPs and 12 every other GE as they fuck up royally and then ask to be forgiven again?

Fucking cunts.

They must have done something really bad in a past life to end up not just as your run of the mill lib dem but lib dem MPs. One of them likely the reincarnation of Edward Carson

 

[moochedit]

Having talks is one thing makes sense from the Tories POV since the LibDems have 12 seats rather than the DUP's 10 plus the LibDems

or maybe they want to get both the lib dems and the dup on board? They would have a very small majority with only 1 of them.

 

[BemusedbyLife]

Well you only have to look at that one complaining about tactical voting to realise the calibre of them. Tactical voting being pretty much their only sales pitch for the entire campaign.

Labour asking its supporters to vote LD to keep May or Conservative asking its supporters to vote LibDem to keep Corbyn out is one thing but running a campaign based on "Vote for us because we're not the ones you really hate" doesn't strike me as a winner long term. No matter who they go into coalition with, they're going to piss off some of the people who voted for them. I don't know but I suspect more people voted for them to keep May out rather than vice versa.
Going back into Coalition with Tories is industrial grade stupid but if they really are that big a bunch of dumbasses they deserve everything they will get next GE

 

[free spirit]

Surely fucking not

Lib dem press office say no coalition, no deal, but as they've got no leader presumably that decision is largely going to be down to the new leader.

 

[frogwoman]

surely not. surely even they wouldn't be this stupid as to throw their lot in with the tories again