Why the lib-dems are shit

[magneze]

Credit where it is due, if there is one thing Clegg is actually vaguely good at, its having a pop at the horrors of the Daily Mail.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...tweet-mocks-daily-mail-coverage-women-cabinet

Meaningless though. Ho ho very funny, what about what you've done to fuck people over Nick, what about that?

 

[Celyn]

Danny Alexander was trumpeting this volte face. The same Danny Alexander who described people affected by the tax as "Bedroom blockers"

Holy shit. Missed that. Did he? That is one evil nasty bastard.

 

[Kaka Tim]

Holy shit. Missed that. Did he? That is one evil nasty bastard.

 

[treelover]

From the Coalition Colouring Book

 

[rekil]

 

[J Ed]

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Who gives a shit what David Ward would do, not exactly helping the Palestinian people there is he?

 

[laptop]

Who gives a shit what David Ward would do, not exactly helping the Palestinian people there is he?

Yes, but he'll be an ex-Lib Dem in 9, 8, 7, 6...

 

[teqniq]

The Liberal Democrats want their share of the credit, declaring that they have "cleared up Labour’s economic mess".

Lib Dem Treasury Minister Danny Alexander says Britain has passed a major milestone today.

“The main reason that we stepped forward to form the coalition was to sort out Labour’s economic mess and rebuild a stronger economy and a fairer society for the future.

“By forming the coalition we gave the country a long term economic recovery plan based on Liberal Democrat values and policies and the stability to see it through."

http://www.theguardian.com/business...-growth-gdp-peak-george-osborne-business-live

 

[Dogsauce]

I think that 'fairer society' is still somewhere down the back of the sofa along with Clegg's vertebrae, isn't it?

 

[butchersapron]

This sneaked by eh? Note who gets no apology.

Lord Rennard gets Lib Dem apology for botched disciplinary process

Lib Dems drop investigation into whether his failure to apologise for sex harassment claims brought party into disrepute

In a fresh concession, a senior Liberal Democrat official apologised to Rennard over the party telling the media an appeal against his suspension had been rejected before the peer himself was informed of the ruling. At a meeting this week of Lib Dem peers, among whom Rennard still has strong support, the party agreed that Lord Wallace of Tankerness would investigate how the leak had occurred. At the time, a friend of Rennard told the BBC the "shocking" and "mischievous" leak was "in total defiance of fair process" and had caused "great distress" to the lord.

The latest development was met with "astonishment" by Susan Gaszczak, one of the activists who made a complaint about Rennard's alleged advances but who left the party last month in protest at the Lib Dems' handling of the matter.

Gaszczak, who is setting up a charity called Surviving Sexual Harassment, said Rennard should not be trying to "paint himself as the victim" and criticised the Lib Dems for having such a "convoluted disciplinary process".

These are our principles:

A Lib Demspokesman confirmed the party is no longer investigating the peer's failure to apologise. Some Lib Dem parliamentarians have privately expressed fears the party could suffer at the election because of the suspension of Rennard, a campaigning expert.

 

[brogdale]

This sneaked by eh? Note who gets no apology.

Lord Rennard gets Lib Dem apology for botched disciplinary process

These are our principles:

The Lib Dem Rock the Boat campaign group against sexual harassment, has said it remains concerned there are "still those in our party who refuse to understand how damaging these episodes have been".

In a letter to the Guardian, the group wrote: "Fundamental to the electoral success of the party in recent years was the perception that we are decent people who generally do the right thing. Agree or disagree with us, people tended to like us.

 

[butchersapron]

...and that latter part is from the sane ones...

 

[J Ed]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/491891/Nick-Clegg-s-flagship-work-scheme-is-dropped

The £1billion Youth Contract Wage Incentive Scheme championed by the Lib Dem Deputy Prime Minister was cut short amid accusations it has been a complete flop.

It was launched at the height of the recession in an attempt to help jobless youngsters into work.

Employers were offered £2,275 to provide a six-month "job start" for someone aged under 25 under the scheme.

But after just 4,690 recruits completed their placements, the Department for Work and Pensions is winding up the scheme.

It had been due to last three years from April 2012 but companies have been told that no further placements will start after August 6 this year

 

[brogdale]

Clegg attempting to extract some political/personal advantage out of Warsi's "principled" resignation calls for 'suspension' of arms export licences to the zionist state at the precise end point of their latest murderous, criminal onslaught against Gaza. Then, once the MSM attention has moved on, have a "review" to revoke licences more permanently; yeah, right.

Big man.

Warsi's departure exacerbated coalition tensions over Gaza, as Clegg urged an immediate suspension of arms export licences, saying that Israel had breached the conditions. He said the suspension should remain in force until agreement has been reached across the government on any permanent revocation in the coming days.

Ministers agreed a review of the licences last week, but Clegg has decided to ratchet up the pressure, saying: "I believe the actions of the Israeli military, overstepping the mark in Gaza, breach the conditions of those export licences and that's why we want to see them suspended pending a wider review of whether they should be revoked more permanently in the long run."

Revealing he has been putting pressure on his Conservative colleagues for a suspension of the licences rather than a review, he said: "I believe we will be able to make an announcement on this, finally, very shortly. It's very important that in response to clearly what appears to be disproportionate military action of Israel in Gaza, we should be suspending the arms export licences that presently exist."

 

[brogdale]

Staines rather nails it...

In case there's any misunderstanding, Rennard put his hands up skirts (and worse) victims complained. LibDems know, do nothing. Women exit.

8:58 PM - 19 Aug 2014

 

[butchersapron]

Is Jesmond posh? Look at what the pricks just done:

#BritainElects @britainelects
North Jesmond (Newcastle upon Tyne) result:

LDEM - 52.5% (+15.2)
LAB - 23.6% (-9.4)
CON - 8.6% (-9.3)
UKIP - 8.3% (+8.3)
GRN - 6.9% (-4.8)

 

[elbows]

Affluent and increasingly populated by students from what I've read.

I suppose its possible the impact of the Lib Dem betrayal of students was overestimated in that a great swathe of fresh students may have a lack of regard for even recent history, with the betrayal easily swept under the rug by appealing new slogans?

 

[elbows]

Their candidate:

Gerry Keating

I moved to the North East from Derbyshire when I was 10. Subsequently, I was educated at St. Cuthbert’s School, Newcastle, and Cambridge University. By the age of 23, I had also worked for two years on opencast and building sites.

Appointed to Newcastle Royal Grammar School aged 25, I taught Politics and Latin for the next 33 years, and coached some outstanding athletes and cross country runners. I was also an elected member of Newcastle City Council for 26 years, during which time I developed particular interest and expertise in transport, education and planning, as well as dealing with thousands of items of casework.

Why the Lib Dems?
Democracy needs to be constitutionally constrained by individual liberty, otherwise we have to endure the tyranny of the majority. More practically, I was influenced by the campaigning activities of John Shipley and David Faulkner in Newcastle.

http://jesmondlocal.com/2014/08/north-jesmond-by-election-gerry-keating/

 

[butchersapron]

Affluent and increasingly populated by students from what I've read.

I suppose its possible the impact of the Lib Dem betrayal of students was overestimated in that a great swathe of fresh students may have a lack of regard for even recent history, with the betrayal easily swept under the rug by appealing new slogans?

Students who it wouldn't effect maybe. The ones who it would/does and did here - still raging.

 

[elbows]

True, and I forgot to factor in the ones who didn't become higher education students at all as a result of unacceptable debt levels.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

North Jesmond is probably the poshest bit of Newcastle (most expensive Tesco Metro in the country I believe), certainly centralish Newcastle and is rock solid Libdem, while the Labour council have of course failed to set the world on fire, so the result is no surprise at all.

South Jesmond was rock solid Libdem but went 2 Labour in the last two elections iirc.

 

[8115]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/08/lib-dems-drug-policy-decriminalise-for-personal-use

Now it's funny, but I seem to remember the Liberal Democrats suggesting decriminalising personal use of cannabis around a year before the last election, and then doing absolutely nothing about it. Good job there aren't a lot of other campaign promises they also broke, huh.

 

[futurereal]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/08/lib-dems-drug-policy-decriminalise-for-personal-use

Now it's funny, but I seem to remember the Liberal Democrats suggesting decriminalising personal use of cannabis around a year before the last election, and then doing absolutely nothing about it. Good job there aren't a lot of other campaign promises they also broke, huh.

And as probably the most pro-EU party, and one that contained a number of members who were pro-devolution for England.... well they have done little to counter UKIP and sweet FA on devolution.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/oct/17/lib-dems-home-rule-scotland

"Campbell suggested England would get its own parliament and network of regional assemblies"

 

[8115]

And as probably the most pro-EU party, and one that contained a number of members who were pro-devolution for England.... well they have done little to counter UKIP and sweet FA on devolution.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/oct/17/lib-dems-home-rule-scotland

"Campbell suggested England would get its own parliament and network of regional assemblies"

Tuition fees? Anyone?

 

[futurereal]

Tuition fees? Anyone?

Still I suppose Clegg is now setup for life off the back of his salary and expenses.
I'm sure he can slip off to Brussels for a good "retirement" job after the next GE (which will only give ammunition to UKIP).
I am pro-EU - but Brussels does need to stop awarding failure and not offering any of the Lib Dems (when they come sniffing around) a job would be a good start.

 

[chilango]

Funnily enough in the past week "non-political" friends/colleagues have started a couple of explicitly political conversations with me, a rare event, both times to slag the Lib Dems.

The hate hasn't gone away yet.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Brussels does need to stop awarding failure and not offering any of the Lib Dems (when they come sniffing around) a job would be a good start.

The problem is not Brussels rewarding failure but national governments using Brussels as a repository for unpopular people they want to quietly reward

 

[ViolentPanda]

Still I suppose Clegg is now setup for life off the back of his salary and expenses.
I'm sure he can slip off to Brussels for a good "retirement" job after the next GE (which will only give ammunition to UKIP).
I am pro-EU - but Brussels does need to stop awarding failure and not offering any of the Lib Dems (when they come sniffing around) a job would be a good start.

You mean "slip off BACK to Brussels", surely?

 

[J Ed]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/liberal-democrat-peer-struggle-300-4370228?ICID=FB_mirror_main

A senior Liberal Democrat has complained that peers cannot get by on the £300 a day they get for turning up at the House of Lords.

Baroness Olly Grender, who worked as an adviser to Nick Clegg, said that the tax-free payment left peers relying on their partners for financial support.

She told the House political magazine: “What you don’t get is a hairdresser, what you don’t get is a bus driver. And why don’t you get those people?

“Because it’s unaffordable for most people to do this kind of thing unless you are relying on a partner.

“A salary in the Lords alone, a bank won’t accept it as payment for a mortgage.

“It varies dramatically because you clock on when you sit because it’s an allowance rather than a salary.”

The attendance allowance is paid instead of a salary.

 

[J Ed]

She told the House political magazine: “What you don’t get is a hairdresser, what you don’t get is a bus driver. And why don’t you get those people?

How much do you think "those people" are on? Fucking die.