Why the lib-dems are shit

[chilango]

He got 19,000 more votes than Labour in the last election. It would indeed be monumental if Labour could win the seat.

Fingers crossed it'll be 2015's "Portillo moment"....but better.

 

[treelover]

I think that's out of date, most of the sandal wearing types have left, etc.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I think that's out of date, most of the sandal wearing types have left, etc.

And that's the sort of great contribution that makes you one of this sites most well loved contributors

 

[treelover]

bugger off,

Sunday seems to bring out the worse in posters, hang over/come down?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

bugger off,

Sunday seems to bring out the worse in posters, hang over/come down?

I'll point out your tedious pointlessness any day of the week

 

[brogdale]

This is all true and I have to guard against wish-fulfilment in my predictions, but in Sutton the LDs have a majority of just 1600. And the "only alternative are the vermin" argument is gone now since the LDs ARE the vermin. You're right the tory vote will go down but so will the LD one the point of decision is whose vote will collapse most and my bet would be on the LD one since we know for sure that several thousand of those voters are Labour anti-tories - the only question being how many thousand. The X factor is the UKIP vote and how many of those will be from the tories. But I'd bet against the LDs holding Sutton - Carshalton maybe they will hold.

Yes, Brakes majority of 5000+ is significantly higher than Burstow's, and that might be significant. And yes, to you and me the LDs are THE VERMIN, but I think the perceptions of many constituents well used to supporting the LDs might well be more forgiving/delusional. Most significantly though, on the ground here, it is evident that the tory party 'machine' has died..quite literally; they don't have the local capacity to launch an all-out 'ground-war' in Sutton. I seriously wouldn't bet against Brake.

 

[J Ed]

More Lib Dem schadenfreude fodder

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1417419.ece

NICK CLEGG suffered two fresh blows last night as the police were called in to investigate claims that he sold peerages for cash, and Liberal Democrat members said plans to oust him were back on track.

 

[brogdale]

More Lib Dem schadenfreude fodder

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/Politics/article1417419.ece

Shame that only exists behind the £wall...as such, it's not a news story.

 

[J Ed]

Shame that only exists behind the £wall...as such, it's not a news story.

I don't have access to most of it either, but I thought what was there sounded pretty fantastic..

Spread to other sources now though

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-calls-for-cashforpeerages-probe-9452216.html

Scotland Yard was today urged to investigate a bombshell claim by a Liberal Democrat peer that his party has been embroiled in a cash-for-peerages scandal.

Lord Oakeshott made the extraordinary allegation as he stormed out of the Lib-Dems yesterday after a failed bid to spark a coup to topple Nick Clegg.

In his resignation statement, Lord Oakeshott said that 14 years ago the then Lib-Dem leader Charles Kennedy asked him, on his appointment to the Upper Chamber, to “shake up” the Lords.

“I’ve tried ... but my efforts to expose and end cash for peerages in all parties, including our own, and help get the Lords elected have failed,” he said.

The allegation — rejected by the Lib-Dems as “completely untrue” — sent shockwaves through Westminster, with its echo of the cash-for-peerages furore during Tony Blair’s premiership.

 

[Quartz]

I think that's out of date, most of the sandal wearing types have left, etc.

Examine the picture more closely.

 

[nessa239]

How long did it take people to work this out - some of us always knew it

 

[steeplejack]

norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS 15m
Vince Cable shd become @libDem caretaker leader until general election says former MP @lembitopik

...the same Lembit Opik who was the *only* Lib Dem to back Oaten for leader?

aye, OK then.

 

[brogdale]

Just normal blokes down the pub...

Vince has been very, very clear - he had absolutely no idea what Matthew Oakeshott was getting up to with his polls.

 

[youngian]

Clegg prepares his next move, a long extended holiday at the seaside.

 

[brogdale]

Apparently folk have been having fun on twitter with libdem pub names....the "never getting back inn" etc...

 

[DaveCinzano]

Just normal blokes down the pub...

Good to see Adam Kenyon stage managing the whole thing at the back there

 

[brogdale]

Amusing Buzzfeed account here.

 

[Santino]

Amusing Buzzfeed account here.

Probably because London Pride is a pretty awful pint.

They lost me there.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Just normal blokes down the pub...

Good old 'politician in the pub' shots. Never fail to make you relate to their integrity and down-to-earthness do they?

 

[goldenecitrone]

Good old 'politician in the pub' shots. Never fail to make you relate to their integrity and down-to-earthness do they?

Where's Charlie's pint?

 

[DotCommunist]

Good old 'politician in the pub' shots. Never fail to make you relate to their integrity and down-to-earthness do they?

cameron is the least convincing at holding a pint. Farage has it down, and the fag. I don't know if thats cos he actually drinks pints or just better acting.

 

[brogdale]

cameron is the least convincing at holding a pint. Farage has it down, and the fag. I don't know if thats cos he actually drinks pints or just better acting.

Aside from the obvious point that,as with all politicians, the whole image is an act....I think Farage's ale consumption is the real deal. AFAICR he has publicly said that he has, at least in the past, liked it a bit too much. I believe his wife has expressed the same, and she's german FFS.

 

[seventh bullet]

Where's Charlie's pint?

Does finding fault in someone's politics mean they should be mocked for their alcoholism?

 

[peterkro]

Aside from the obvious point that,as with all politicians, the whole image is an act....I think Farage's ale consumption is the real deal. AFAICR he has publicly said that he has, at least in the past, liked it a bit too much. I believe his wife has expressed the same, and she's german FFS.

If Farange's beer consumption is in anyway related to the number of times I see him on the telly with a pint in his hand he definitely has a serious alcohol problem.

 

[goldenecitrone]

Does finding fault in someone's politics mean they should be mocked for their alcoholism?

Hardly mocking. Just pointing out that Lib Dem leaders and alcohol don't always mix well.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Hardly mocking. Just pointing out that Lib Dem leaders and alcohol don't always mix well.

So cos Charlie was a pisshead Clegg might be too? Give over, it was a dig and a bit of a naughty one, don't claim you're making a point.

 

[brogdale]

If you don't have a problem with clicking Staine's blog, he's running an amusing little piece about Clegg and those TV debates with Farage.

Basically Staines thinks that Clegg has breached the Ministerial CoC by accepting civil service briefings for the debates in which he spoke as party leader. Staine's FoI request to the cabinet office for the briefings has been rejected.

 

[laptop]

If you don't have a problem with clicking Staine's blog, he's running an amusing little piece about Clegg and those TV debates with Farage.

Basically Staines thinks that Clegg has breached the Ministerial CoC by accepting civil service briefings for the debates in which he spoke as party leader. Staine's FoI request to the cabinet office for the briefings has been rejected.

That's a bit of a desperate attack on a teensy marginal issue by StaInes...

he's just jealous he didn't get the cash-for-ermine story

 

[free spirit]

So cos Charlie was a pisshead Clegg might be too? Give over, it was a dig and a bit of a naughty one, don't claim you're making a point.

a pisshead who was the only lib dem MP to vote against the coalition agreement, to give him his due.

 

[butchersapron]

a pisshead who was the only lib dem MP to vote against the coalition agreement, to give him his due.

He didn't vote against it at all. He abstained, then loudly and publicly supported the coalition with his votes and voice whilst it launched its murderous attack on the poorest and most vulnerable. To give him his full due.