When did it happen?
Not really the point, though, is it? The point is that Clegg has made it clear who he'll deal with. And that if Labour's not in front, it'll be the Tories.
Peter Kellner had a piece in the Times yesterday which received baffling few comments, that showed how the lib-dem surge has done sever damage to the tories in those lab/con marginals, reducing the swing to 4% in line with the national swing which, if carried though to the election would make it impossible for the tories to form a govt on their own.
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Not really the point, though, is it? The point is that Clegg has made it clear who he'll deal with. And that if Labour's not in front, it'll be the Tories.
Why not? That's exactly what the sort of coalition building that PR brings is all about. It would be the perfect example of how it would work.Thinking about this, he has to deal with the Tories really in this case. He is campaigning on a platform of PR, he can't then get into bed with the least popular party to form a government.
I probably misunderstood but he said he wouldn't support labour if they came third but didn't exclude supporting them if they came 2nd? Isn't there something about not supporting Brown in any scenario? All of which goes against the 'not discussing the outcome' stance of last week?
A sample of 2, 200 across how many seats? Doesn't sound awfully thorough.
No he doesn't. He could chose to do no deal at all. Theoretically, he could create a coalition of all the minor parties, if their votes were enough to give a parliamentary majority. A 'rainbow coalition': it has happened in other countries, even if it won't happen here this time.Thinking about this, he has to deal with the Tories really in this case. He is campaigning on a platform of PR, he can't then get into bed with the least popular party to form a government.
Paddy Pantsdown said it would be unthinkable but I reckon clegg would just be all 'fuck you old man, I'm the man in the driving seat' if it came to it.
Third party votes help Labour. A strong vote for the Lib Dems is their best hope of getting the most seats, hence all the recent fuss over the possibility that Labour will come third in votes and first in seats. That is only possible if the Lib Dems do very well.FWIW I think Labour are being excessively complacent about what this could mean for them - strong LD showing might peel them down to the core, and the Tory core is much stronger.
so less than 20 per constituency? And yougov seem more than usually reliant on things like internet polling which are less reliable. And there won't be a uniform swing across those 115 seats - I think we might be looking at a sharp divide between the North and the Midlands/South Divide.
FWIW I think Labour are being excessively complacent about what this could mean for them - strong LD showing might peel them down to the core, and the Tory core is much stronger.
He's clearly making the rules up as he goes along, mind.
You aren't going to get anything more interesting. You're going to get a LibLab pact or a LibCon pact. Or a minority government.Which is why I want them to get loads of votes. Aren't you all just slightly bored of the usual election results? Don't you crave something a bit more interesting?
So is representative democracy.I want a change in the electoral system though. FPTP is a relic of the 18th century.
So is representative democracy.
And you'd hoover a carpet that's had an elephant living on it for over 200 years?Quite so. But you can't hoover the carpet until you have moved the elephant off it.
And you'd hoover a carpet that's had an elephant living on it for over 200 years?
Quite so. But you can't hoover the carpet until you have moved the elephant off it.
You're not hoovering the carpet - you're hoovering the elephant.
And you're just sat on the sofa telling everyone both that nothing can change, and everything should change.