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You don't even know what institutional racism even means, do you? The company I work for is decades old, and I've only been working there for a year and eight months. I'm sure institutional racism is a problem there as it is everywhere else in this country, but the difference is that my workplace is one of those where it's been decided that there's a business case for attempting to address it within the company.



Correction, you think you all get along. One of the bonuses of having LGBT+ and BAME spaces within a workplace is for there to be a forum where colleagues can talk about such issues, without fear of being shouted down or otherwise dismissed by some "colour blind" idiot who arrogantly assumes that everyone else sees things all the same way.

"No safe places", do you even read the shit you write? The whole damn workplace should be a safe place, you thundering moron.



Eh? What the actual fuck are you dribbling on about now? I'm a peon who barely scraped through his last quarterly review. What power is it do you think that I wield? How does supporting BAME spaces at work give me, a white Briton, any power?



How far is too far? I have no fucking clue what you're on about. I have no idea what you think lies further down this alleged slippery slope that you're obviously imagining I'm in favour of.
Because you're not an anti-racist.
You're racist.
 
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You are making an awful lot of assumptions about me. First of all I am not an anti-racist activist, I am merely someone who disagrees with you.

You are also being very evasive and not giving me anything concrete. What exactly do you think I would find racist that you wouldn't?
And you're making an awful lot of assumptions about racism in this country.
 
I am sure I can find one but I'm actually not a committed anti-racist activist or anything and don't follow anti-racism campaigns especially closely. There has been plenty of cases of hounding people on Twitter that I considered to be excessive. Also complaints of "cultural appropriation" is frequently, but not always, not actually cared about by the people whose culture is being appropriated.

Also, I don't think middle class liberals are the only people who oppose racism.
I've never met a middle class liberals who oppose racism, they tend to create it. Once middle class liberals move into an area, I'd give it a year or two, before everyone is at each other's throats.
 
Shouldn't you be doing that since you're the only one who keeps whining about it?
No, if you disgaree with me, you need to give examples of how far is too far.
If you can't do that, you wouldn't be able to describe to me, what it is you want or see as an ideal society, what your political end game is.
Most non-woke people can tell you how far is too far, even if you disagree with them.
Example "I'm against mass immigration, but deporting people is bang out of order." - you see, that's an example of the "right" taking things to far. And no, that's not my view in quotes, as I can't see many people wanting to come to this country in 10 to 15 years time, we will have minus net immigration.
 
If you find yourself agreeing with Peterson it's time to have a fucking word with yourself.

Also just because you don't understand what someone is telling you that doesn't mean they can't tell you. It just means you're fucking stupid.
Jordan Peterson: "Oxygen is important."
SpineyNorman: "Set the trees on fire!!!!"
 
Because you're not an anti-racist.
You're racist.

I'm a racist because I support the idea of BAME spaces in the workplace? Nick Griffin, is that you?

Seriously, you accuse me of being a racist and of having some lust for power that can only be sated by the existence of workplace networks formed primarily for the benefit of other people. Whether that's the C-suite of the company who think it might help the business make more money, or the BAME employees that might find it helpful to have a network at the workplace. In the case of my workplace this amounts to a dedicated Slack channel, along with occasional and entirely optional lectures and meetings conducted by volunteers.

So when you just scream "racist" at me, I simply find it a little tricky to connect the dots.

No, the whole country should be, you thick as shit racist.

OK, I can get behind that. But the thing is that right now it's not, so why not have the workplace be one of the places to start?
 
I'm a racist because I support the idea of BAME spaces in the workplace? Nick Griffin, is that you?

Seriously, you accuse me of being a racist and of having some lust for power that can only be sated by the existence of workplace networks formed primarily for the benefit of other people. Whether that's the C-suite of the company who think it might help the business make more money, or the BAME employees that might find it helpful to have a network at the workplace. In the case of my workplace this amounts to a dedicated Slack channel, along with occasional and entirely optional lectures and meetings conducted by volunteers.

So when you just scream "racist" at me, I simply find it a little tricky to connect the dots.



OK, I can get behind that. But the thing is that right now it's not, so why not have the workplace be one of the places to start?
No, you're racist because you believe that any company that DOESN'T supply safe spaces is "institutionally racist".

And why is race the only thing that matters to you? Don't the disabled, gay, lesbian, bisexuals, trans, muslims, jews, buddists, mentally impared, women get their own spaces?

Or is race the only thing that matters to you?

Anyway, communism is great. Soon under communism, there will be advances in technology that will allow a special bio-ink just beneath our skins, enabling the user to choose whatever skin tone we want, one minute we could be white, but black the next! Hair that can change colour on the fly will also change.

checks notes - Oh fuck, I've did it again.....it's CAPITALISM that will allow these great advances in technology and wealth, making us all happier....despite efforts by ideological nutcase liberals to reverse and ruin all the fun.
 
You've explained why you're a bigoted fool?
Counter-accusations no longer work with you lot. You're a bunch of po-faced authoratarians and all you have to offer to world is misery.
Your answer to climate change is control and authoratarianism.
Capitalism will come up with the answers and tech to eat up carbon, rather than restricting output by the masses.
 
OK, I can get behind that. But the thing is that right now it's not, so why not have the workplace be one of the places to start?
Just because there are no White people, it doesn't automatically make it is a safe-space, does it? It's not as though racism is something exclusive to Whites.
It's just totally random. Whatever next? Demanding White people sit at the back on buses?
 
No, you're racist because you believe that any company that DOESN'T supply safe spaces is "institutionally racist".

First of all, I said nothing of the sort. Indeed, I said this:

The company I work for is decades old, and I've only been working there for a year and eight months. I'm sure institutional racism is a problem there as it is everywhere else in this country, but the difference is that my workplace is one of those where it's been decided that there's a business case for attempting to address it within the company.

So the first thing you need to do is dial back your grievance and actually read what people are writing, because right now your fragility is blinding you.

And why is race the only thing that matters to you?

Again, you are imputing positions to me that exist only inside your head. Where did I say that race is the only thing that matters? Race was the subject because you seem especially fixated on the racial element, as well as calling me a racist based on quite frankly batshit arguments. Try actually reading, understanding and quoting one of my posts.

Don't the disabled, gay, lesbian, bisexuals, trans, muslims, jews, buddists, mentally impared, women get their own spaces?

Sure, why not?

Anyway, communism is great. Soon under communism, there will be advances in technology that will allow a special bio-ink just beneath our skins, enabling the user to choose whatever skin tone we want, one minute we could be white, but black the next! Hair that can change colour on the fly will also change.

checks notes - Oh fuck, I've did it again.....it's CAPITALISM that will allow these great advances in technology and wealth, making us all happier....despite efforts by ideological nutcase liberals to reverse and ruin all the fun.

So is this biopunk-esque skin colour changing technology, what stage of development is it in? Because I'm pretty sure it's not available in my local implant-parlour, which also doesn't exist because this is real life, not some cyberpunk novel.

Capitalist advances in wealth... like wages not keeping up with productivity? Yeah, that's for the benefit of the ruling classes. Cool advancement, thanks capitalism, I love below-inflation pay increases that are effectively pay cuts. Woo hoo!

Also, since a number of advances in agriculture happened under feudalism, and were vital steps towards the state of agronomic abundance we enjoy today. Does that mean you're now a thankful fan of feudalism, and will seek to re-instate serfdom and the divine right of kings post-haste? No? Hmmm, I wonder why?

Just because there are no White people, it doesn't automatically make it is a safe-space, does it? It's not as though racism is something exclusive to Whites.
It's just totally random. Whatever next? Demanding White people sit at the back on buses?

What makes you think no white people are involved in BAME networks? Such things are about advocating for BAME people, not excluding white people. Other networks are also open to people who aren't themselves part of that demographic. For example, the Neurodivergence network at my workplace also offers help and advice to those employees who may not themselves have autism or other neurodivergent conditions, but perhaps they have children or other dependents who do.

The existence of BAME networks is not random. Britain is a majority-white country, and BAME communities here face challenges that simply never arise for white folk. For example, as a white Briton I don't have to ever worry about being shipped off to Jamaica due to some "hostile environment" bullshit.
 
No, you're racist because you believe that any company that DOESN'T supply safe spaces is "institutionally racist".

And why is race the only thing that matters to you? Don't the disabled, gay, lesbian, bisexuals, trans, muslims, jews, buddists, mentally impared, women get their own spaces?

Or is race the only thing that matters to you?

Anyway, communism is great. Soon under communism, there will be advances in technology that will allow a special bio-ink just beneath our skins, enabling the user to choose whatever skin tone we want, one minute we could be white, but black the next! Hair that can change colour on the fly will also change.

checks notes - Oh fuck, I've did it again.....it's CAPITALISM that will allow these great advances in technology and wealth, making us all happier....despite efforts by ideological nutcase liberals to reverse and ruin all the fun.
Yeh capitalism has made lots of people happy :rolleyes:

If you're not what Lenin would have described as thick as pig-shit you're wilfully ignorant, and that's worse. The happiness you claim comes from capitalism is founded on poor people in far-off lands doing really shitty and dangerous jobs for fuck all money, like the people in Africa who mine the rare earth metals needed for mobile phones and so on, and workers paid a fucking pittance in places like China and Vietnam. Your clothes, for instance, don't just make themselves you know. All of capitalism is founded on racism and buying, as it were, into capitalism and holding it up as the solution to the woes it's got us into, well, for me that's saying damn the poor fuckers who do the shitwork abroad, as long as I'm alright it's all OK. Which is at the least tantamount to racism
 
Wtf are you even talking about, I don't even know how to engage with this bilge

He's come out with a lot of these kind of absolute verbal gems. I seriously encourage people to go back and read his posts. I didn't know anyone could get so bent out of shape over what basically amounts some Slack channels and meetings. But to read his posts, you'd think there was some kind of white genocide going on.
 
He's come out with a lot of these kind of absolute verbal gems. I seriously encourage people to go back and read his posts. I didn't know anyone could get so bent out of shape over what basically amounts some Slack channels and meetings. But to read his posts, you'd think there was some kind of white genocide going on.
but capitalism will fix everything
 
He's come out with a lot of these kind of absolute verbal gems. I seriously encourage people to go back and read his posts. I didn't know anyone could get so bent out of shape over what basically amounts some Slack channels and meetings. But to read his posts, you'd think there was some kind of white genocide going on.

I would imagine he got fired for racially abusing a colleague and rather than reflect on his errors he decides to blame a vast yet nebulous woke conspiracy.
 
but capitalism will fix everything

Capitalism couldn't even wean itself off of relying on burning fossil fuels as a main source of energy, despite the fact that there was a golden opportunity in the form of the Oil Crisis in the 1970s (and an accompanying interest in expanding the fleet of nuclear fission reactors, by that point a proven technology). As soon as that passed, capitalism was back on the oil again like a junkie on heroin. As a result we are now paying the price for that addiction, at least twice; both in funding some really fucking awful regimes, and in worsening the current climate crisis.

Thanks capitalism!
 
Capitalism couldn't even wean itself off of relying on burning fossil fuels as a main source of energy, despite the fact that there was a golden opportunity in the form of the Oil Crisis in the 1970s (and an accompanying interest in expanding the fleet of nuclear fission reactors, by that point a proven technology). As soon as that passed, capitalism was back on the oil again like a junkie on heroin. As a result we are now paying the price for that addiction, at least twice; both in funding some really fucking awful regimes, and in worsening the current climate crisis.

Thanks capitalism!
yeh it's like some desperate alkie - as soon as there's the slightest, barest excuse eg the war in ukraine it's back to the hard stuff, in this case coal. and as long as there's a profit to be turned from oil and plastic and that the companies have the ear of people in government who are so brazenly corrupt
 
Yeh capitalism has made lots of people happy :rolleyes:

If you're not what Lenin would have described as thick as pig-shit you're wilfully ignorant, and that's worse. The happiness you claim comes from capitalism is founded on poor people in far-off lands doing really shitty and dangerous jobs for fuck all money, like the people in Africa who mine the rare earth metals needed for mobile phones and so on, and workers paid a fucking pittance in places like China and Vietnam. Your clothes, for instance, don't just make themselves you know. All of capitalism is founded on racism and buying, as it were, into capitalism and holding it up as the solution to the woes it's got us into, well, for me that's saying damn the poor fuckers who do the shitwork abroad, as long as I'm alright it's all OK. Which is at the least tantamount to racism
Of course there are a lot of people not happy with capitalism, but
Nothing there denying being underemployed
Zero hours contract. I'm off today though, so I'll be looking at building my passive income and generally sorting my life out. Might go out tonight to watch the new Avatar movie. The critics have given mixed reviews, so it's a sign that it wasn't patronising enough. People pay good money to be patronised these days!
 
yeh it's like some desperate alkie - as soon as there's the slightest, barest excuse eg the war in ukraine it's back to the hard stuff, in this case coal. and as long as there's a profit to be turned from oil and plastic and that the companies have the ear of people in government who are so brazenly corrupt
Oh I totally agree with you.
BUT, take all that bullshit away and we still have capitalism.
If only there was a technological solution that undermined the banks that didn't involve wannabe revolutionaries?
 
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