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I'm talking about causing disunity and resentment in the workforce by creating safe-spaces for BAME & LGBTQ+ while everyone else is made to feel "different".

We have spaces like that at my workplace. As a white guy I don't feel excluded from the BAME network, much less the workplace in general on account of it, and why should I? Nobody is going to turn down my help should I offer it. You are talking shit.
 
Perhaps, the best thing to do, would be to stay away from politics, especially politics where there is an obvious split in public opinion.
You know, make a product, market it and stay away from completly unrelated politics, then they don't have to "bend" to anyone.

All I want to know is whether the fucking tea was produced ethically and that it tastes good.
That's it. The end.

It's more than just a "handful of whiny cranks" that finds BLM problematic.

Racism is bad. We might disagree with whether racism starts and ends. We can tell when someone has taken things to far in that direction and more and more of us would label that person as racist.

But what would you call someone who for example argues in effect that non-UK born people should enjoy privilages that UK born people don't?

Wokery is considered to be the kinda opposite, so opposite that it could be argued there is some kind counter-racism going on.

I'm not talking about an estate agent that says "...and here we have a wonderful primary bedroom..."

I'm talking about causing disunity and resentment in the workforce by creating safe-spaces for BAME & LGBTQ+ while everyone else is made to feel "different".

I'm talking about corporates abusing a good cause such as anti-racism, to cause resentment and divisions in the workforce, so there is a disunited workforce.

Surely you know of examples of where good causes have been hiacked and taken to far so as to be counter-productive?

Re markerting being smart. Yes they know that right wingers tend to ignore the politics more and are less likely to boycott a brand, at least pound for pound. Left wingers are less tolerant.

But times are changing. More and more right wingers are boycotting more and more.

It's been an awful long time since I've had a tub of Ben & Jerry's.
Yeats said of Mathers he had much learning but little scholarship. You have neither learning nor scholarship
 
My mind isn't closed by political ideology or ddogma.
It's good to keep an open mind...
Perhaps, the best thing to do, would be to stay away from politics, especially politics where there is an obvious split in public opinion.
You know, make a product, market it and stay away from completly unrelated politics, then they don't have to "bend" to anyone.

All I want to know is whether the fucking tea was produced ethically and that it tastes good.
That's it. The end.

It's more than just a "handful of whiny cranks" that finds BLM problematic.

Racism is bad. We might disagree with whether racism starts and ends. We can tell when someone has taken things to far in that direction and more and more of us would label that person as racist.

But what would you call someone who for example argues in effect that non-UK born people should enjoy privilages that UK born people don't?

Wokery is considered to be the kinda opposite, so opposite that it could be argued there is some kind counter-racism going on.

I'm not talking about an estate agent that says "...and here we have a wonderful primary bedroom..."

I'm talking about causing disunity and resentment in the workforce by creating safe-spaces for BAME & LGBTQ+ while everyone else is made to feel "different".

I'm talking about corporates abusing a good cause such as anti-racism, to cause resentment and divisions in the workforce, so there is a disunited workforce.

Surely you know of examples of where good causes have been hiacked and taken to far so as to be counter-productive?

Re markerting being smart. Yes they know that right wingers tend to ignore the politics more and are less likely to boycott a brand, at least pound for pound. Left wingers are less tolerant.

But times are changing. More and more right wingers are boycotting more and more.

It's been an awful long time since I've had a tub of Ben & Jerry's.
...but not so open that your brain falls out.

Sorry for your loss.
 
We have spaces like that at my workplace. As a white guy I don't feel excluded from the BAME network, much less the workplace in general on account of it, and why should I? Nobody is going to turn down my help should I offer it. You are talking shit.
Just a recap on how we got here.
Someone implied that my problem with corporate censorship is down to just protecting people from racism.
I have no problem with that per se so let's look at it another way.
Would your workplace be institutionally racist if they decided against providing safe places?
I think not.
And besides a lot of these issues are peripheral to the real problem.
If doesn't matter that we disagree on where the boundaries are for what is and isn't racism.
What matters are systems that place too much power in the hands of the few and its all got a lot more to do with whether power is denxtralised or not than capitalism itself
Centralised power would corrupt any financial system or market whether its capitalism, communism or socialism.
 
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Would your workplace be institutionally racist if they decided against providing safe places?
I think not.

Why not? Institutional racism is definitely a thing, and in the country where I live and work that bias is going to favour white British people like me more often than not. If a company refuses to even pay lip service to the issue, then that's hardly a promising sign, is it?

And besides a lot of these issues are peripheral to the real problem.
If doesn't matter that we disagree on where the boundaries are for what is and isn't racism.

Actually it matters a hell of a lot. If the people who have historically benefited from institutional racism and ingrained prejudice are the ones who get to set the boundaries of what is and isn't racism, then that's not going to properly represent the interests and concerns of those who have been and are still being negatively effected. Seems pretty obvious to me.
 
Genuine question - can anyone point to someone who goes on about ‘fiat currency’ that isn’t a bellend? Any known non-bellend usage? Is it a reliable signifier, like people who go on about Diane Abbott or say that you can’t have a sensible discussion about immigration?
 
Genuine question - can anyone point to someone who goes on about ‘fiat currency’ that isn’t a bellend? Any known non-bellend usage? Is it a reliable signifier, like people who go on about Diane Abbott or say that you can’t have a sensible discussion about immigration?

Yep nailed on guaranteed.
 
Let me guess - you aren't boycotting them for selling their products in illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank but for tweeting Black Lives Matter.

And Incidentally, Ben and Jerry's reported their highest ever revenue last year so it appears that your boycott is indeed just a bunch of irrelevant cranks.
Trust me, I boycotted them a looooong time before some badly trained cop with anger management issues murdered a violent misogynist meth head on the other side of the planet.

See what I did there? I put personal agency and sovereignty of the individual above skin colour.
 
Trust me, I boycotted them a looooong time before some badly trained cop with anger management issues murdered a violent misogynist meth head on the other side of the planet.

Yeah, he looked so violent, lying face-down on the floor with his hands cuffed behind his back and a police officer slowly strangling him to death by kneeling on his neck. George Floyd was no saint, but he certainly didn't deserve to be summarily murdered on the street by some racist piece of filth with a badge. Are you trying to come across as an even bigger cunt with every additional post you make?
 
Trust me, I boycotted them a looooong time before some badly trained cop with anger management issues murdered a violent misogynist meth head on the other side of the planet.

See what I did there? I put personal agency and sovereignty of the individual above skin colour.
What did you boycott them for?

Floyd's entirely irrelevant history doesn't negate the fact that it was racially motivated and the murdering filth who killed him would have got away with it were it not for the video and public outcry because of institutional racism. You can act colour blind over it if you want but it just makes you, well, blind.
 
Just a recap on how we got here.
Someone implied that my problem with corporate censorship is down to just protecting people from racism.

Not sure if you are referring to me or not but that isn't what I said.

The motivations of corporations for doing "woke" stuff are as follows.

1 - Improves brand image so is good for sales and profitability among the demographics that matter to them. This is not something they do on the fly but after extensive market research.

2 - HR departments are generally tasked with creating loyalty without raising wages. Creating groups for BAME and LGBTQ etc is a way to respond to things that their employees say they care about in employee feedback surveys without spending any money.

3 - Effective management of an increasingly multi cultural workforce, avoidance of conflicts and avoiding cliques forming which leads to people being promoted for reasons other than their abilities.

Note that all the above is a response to how society has changed, a largely inevitable consequence of greater ease of communication and travel.

It isn't because of a conspiracy of the Jews to turn everyone gay or whatever bullshit it is you believe but won't say directly.

Trust me, I boycotted them a looooong time before some badly trained cop with anger management issues murdered a violent misogynist meth head on the other side of the planet.

See what I did there? I put personal agency and sovereignty of the individual above skin colour.

Why did you boycott them then? Did their stance on saving the rainforest offend your delicate sensibilities or something?
 
Yeah, he looked so violent, lying face-down on the floor with his hands cuffed behind his back and a police officer slowly strangling him to death by kneeling on his neck. George Floyd was no saint, but he certainly didn't deserve to be summarily murdered on the street by some racist piece of filth with a badge. Are you trying to come across as an even bigger cunt with every additional post you make?
What part of the word MURDERED don't you understand?
The word MURDERED implies an unjust killing.

noun: murder; plural noun: murders
  1. 1.
    the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
    "the brutal murder of a German holidaymaker"

 
What part of the word MURDERED don't you understand?
The word MURDERED implies an unjust killing.

noun: murder; plural noun: murders
  1. 1.
    the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
    "the brutal murder of a German holidaymaker"
No, it doesn't. Just because something is against the law doesn't mean it's always unjust.
 
Thought the reason he boycotted them might be due to them being vocally against Israeli settlements or something, that's the only controversial stance I can remember them taking :facepalm:
 
Not sure if you are referring to me or not but that isn't what I said.

The motivations of corporations for doing "woke" stuff are as follows.

1 - Improves brand image so is good for sales and profitability among the demographics that matter to them. This is not something they do on the fly but after extensive market research.

2 - HR departments are generally tasked with creating loyalty without raising wages. Creating groups for BAME and LGBTQ etc is a way to respond to things that their employees say they care about in employee feedback surveys without spending any money.

3 - Effective management of an increasingly multi cultural workforce, avoidance of conflicts and avoiding cliques forming which leads to people being promoted for reasons other than their abilities.

Note that all the above is a response to how society has changed, a largely inevitable consequence of greater ease of communication and travel.

It isn't because of a conspiracy of the Jews to turn everyone gay or whatever bullshit it is you believe but won't say directly.



Why did you boycott them then? Did their stance on saving the rainforest offend your delicate sensibilities or something?
I resent international corporates, especially ones that started up abroad, trying to dictate the poltiical narritive for Britain.

For example Ben & Jerry's said some real imflammatory shite concerning immigration and the British government.

It's one thing for a firm to support a cause, But to accuse people who find a cause problematic as racist, is beyond the pale, that's an awful insulting slur that is cast far and wide.

Of course there are racists against BLM, but then again there's going to plenty of racists within BLM, both the organisation and the movement.

It's important to dismiss the those that spout racist shite, rather than a wider movement - that would be the sensible way, to judge people by their actions and words, rather than tarring an alwful lot of people with the same brush.

It's the same with immigration. To dismiss people who find mass immigration problematic is another divisive slur.

And I remind you, I could not give a hoot about immigration one way or the other because it's a non-issue. I 100% believe within the next 10 years, very few would want or need to come to this country. I believe in 15 years, there will be way more people leaving this country than moving into it. We'll be begging people to stay.

Also, I have no problem with diversity training, as long as it is that, rather than the critical race theory nonsense.
 
Chauvin was found guilty by a jury? Unless you're saying he was right to do what he did?
Absolutely. I have no problem with the vedict the jury returned, in the case of Chauvin. I watched enough of it to know that he should have gone down for a long long time, because there were people shouting at him, telling him that he was killing Flloyd.
 
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