Why Does America Hate Cuba?

[kyser_soze]

I have no really strong feelings either way - I've not been, never talked to any Cubans about it. But I do know that more than one person I know who has been there have had similar conversations with Drs working as waiters because practicing medcine doesn't pay well enough to put food on the table.

 

[DotCommunist]

I have no really strong feelings either way - I've not been, never talked to any Cubans about it. But I do know that more than one person I know who has been there have had similar conversations with Drs working as waiters because practicing medcine doesn't pay well enough to put food on the table.

Like Ireland, there is a lot of education-for-export going on. Nothing really wrong with that. Small, semi-industrial/agricultural islands with a drive at education tend to export more expertise than they import.

 

[Santino]

America sends cheques to Cuba to pay the rent for Guantanamo Bay, but Cuba refuses to cash them and Fidel's got a draw full of them. Allegedly.


I hope he lights his cigars with them.

 

[rikwakefield]

America sends cheques to Cuba to pay the rent for Guantanamo Bay, but Cuba refuses to cash them and Fidel's got a draw full of them. Allegedly.

I hope that's true.

 

[DotCommunist]

America sends cheques to Cuba to pay the rent for Guantanamo Bay, but Cuba refuses to cash them and Fidel's got a draw full of them. Allegedly.


I hope he lights his cigars with them.

I love 'dissident' leaders and thier extravagant gestures of defiance. Like Gaddafi giving a heroes welcome to the bloke who probably didn't do Lockerbie. A grand middle finger to western imperialism.

 

[Santino]

I love 'dissident' leaders and thier extravagant gestures of defiance. Like Gaddafi giving a heroes welcome to the bloke who probably didn't do Lockerbie. A grand middle finger to western imperialism.

If I was leader of a strategically insignificant island I would declare war on America every year on 4th July, do nothing for a few months, and then declare victory.

 

[Ibn Khaldoun]

Like Gaddafi giving a heroes welcome to the bloke who probably didn't do Lockerbie. A grand middle finger to western imperialism.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I suppose I can understand the problem with this. Was it certain that they did this, or American propaganda?

It's certain. We were about two days away from a nuclear war because of it.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

So there's no answer then? I wonder if Obama will do anything about it.

I think it's personal. I think that when Castro dies, you'll see the beginnings of change wrt the US position.

 

[TitanSound]

Has there been any word on him? They have stopped posting photos of him in a tracksuit with a copy of the days paper :/

 

[two sheds]

Imagine finding out your enemy has parked X amount of nukes 90 miles from your coastline. It was in response to the US having missile silos in Turkey though.

Yep, the Russians knew exactly what it was like having X amount of nukes so close to their coastline .

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Che Guevara wanted a nuclear war with the US, and then let things get sorted out amongst the rubble.

 

[Idris2002]

Che Guevara wanted a nuclear war with the US, and then let things get sorted out amongst the rubble.

You've got to admit he had a point.

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

That "embargo" is really pretty thin as it is. Almost every state in the union has done an end run around it to sell goods to Cuba.

And lets face it, without the embargo Cuba would have been eaten alive by American tourism long ago.

 

[JHE]

Che Guevara wanted a nuclear war with the US, and then let things get sorted out amongst the rubble.

It is amazing how gung ho some of the Cubans (and Guevara) were. I find it utterly mind-boggling.

Chanted in Havana in protest at the Soviet deal with the US and the decision to withdraw the missiles:

Nikita, mariquita,
Lo que se da
No se quita​

[Nikita, little poof, what's given is not taken away]​

You don't want a nuclear war? What a sissy!

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You've got to admit he had a point.

I tend to prefer the status quo; ie: I'm still alive.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

It is amazing how gung ho some of the Cubans (and Guevara) were. I find it utterly mind-boggling.

Chanted in Havana in protest at the Soviet deal with the US and the decision to withdraw the missiles:

Nikita, mariquita,
Lo que se da
No se quita​

[Nikita, little poof, what's given is not taken away]​

You don't want a nuclear war? What a sissy!

Khruschev is the real hero of the Cuban Missile Crisis.

 

[Idris2002]

I tend to prefer the status quo; ie: I'm still alive.

Man is born free, yet is everywhere in chains.

 

[Riklet]

Cuban lobby yo

Everyone wants votes, don't they....

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Man is born free, yet is everywhere in chains.

'Live Free Or Die' - saying on New Hampshire licence plates.

 

[Idris2002]

'Live Free Or Die' - saying on New Hampshire licence plates.

'The Land of the Spree and the Home of the Knave' - line from a Marx Brother's movie.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

'The Land of the Spree and the Home of the Knave' - line from a Marx Brother's movie.

I'm alright, Jack - line from a British person.

 

[not-bono-ever]

I would suggest a read of Greenes "our man in Havana" for a delightful little snapshot of how things worked before '59

I would also recommend a viewing of "invsion USA" with Chuck Norris for a snapshot of what would have happened if the dark forces of international communism had been allowed to been allowed to breed any further in Cuba

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I would suggest a read of Greenes "our man in Havana" for a delightful little snapshot of how things worked before '59

I would also recommend a viewing of "invsion USA" with Chuck Norris for a snapshot of what would have happened if the dark forces of international communism had been allowed to been allowed to breed any further in Cuba

Either that, or Red Dawn.

They came out of Mexico.

 

[DotCommunist]

yankee fear of the Other would be pathetic, if it wasn't quite so frightening.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

yankee fear of the Other would be pathetic, if it wasn't quite so frightening.

...says the guy from the country where they're in panic over the unwashed hordes gathering across the Channel in Calais.....

 

[not-bono-ever]

Either that, or Red Dawn.

They came out of Mexico.

were the Cubes in Red Dawn ? I cant remember fuck all about it except that the kids beat the mongol hordes. or soemthing

 

[Idris2002]

I'm alright, Jack - line from a British person.

'To-mato, toh-mato - let's call the whole thing off'.

 

[JHE]

...says the guy from the country where they're in panic over the unwashed hordes gathering across the Channel in Calais.....

No. People don't panic about immigration - whether that's the bit that comes via camps at Calais or most of it that doesn't. Some people moan. Some grumble. Some tut. Some people make sarky remarks. Some become pessimistic. Some people even get annoyed. In short, there is just the range of reactions you should expect from the British. Panic really doesn't come into it.

 

[DotCommunist]

...says the guy from the country where they're in panic over the unwashed hordes gathering across the Channel in Calais.....

actually there is a case to be made that Midwich Cuckoos and Day of the Triffids represented a certain, right wing, fear of the other. In the 1950's