Why Does America Hate Cuba?

[rikwakefield]

I just found out there's a pretty strict jail penalty for importing Cuban Cigars. I know it's only an example, but what have they done to warrant such treatment?

 

[weltweit]

Because Cuba is unnashamedly communist and they are unbowed!

Because they sited Soviet missiles to be close to the USA.

Because they make good cigars and the Yanks are envious.

 

[TitanSound]

Because Cuba is unnashamedly communist and they are unbowed!

Because they sited Soviet missiles to be close to the USA.

Because they make good cigars and the Yanks are envious.

In the most simplest terms I have ever seen...this is why

But yeah, pretty fucked up that they are still seen as some evil commie state. The trade embargo farce is just that, a farce.

 

[rikwakefield]

Because they sited Soviet missiles to be close to the USA.

I suppose I can understand the problem with this. Was it certain that they did this, or American propaganda?

 

[TitanSound]

I suppose I can understand the problem with this. Was it certain that they did this, or American propaganda?

Please, for the love of GOD, tell me you are joking...

 

[embree]

I suppose I can understand the problem with this. Was it certain that they did this, or American propaganda?

Google 'Cuban Missile Crisis'

 

[weltweit]

A Cuban Havanna: a fat brown cigar hand rolled on the sweating thighs of beautiful Cuban virgins.

 

[rikwakefield]

Please, for the love of GOD, tell me you are joking...

I am not ashamed of not knowing something. At least I'm trying.

Google 'Cuban Missile Crisis'

Thank you.

 

[TitanSound]

I am not ashamed of not knowing something.

Sorry if I sounded like an arse..but yeah..it did happen

The world was pretty much on the brink of World War III at the time. Imagine finding out your enemy has parked X amount of nukes 90 miles from your coastline. It was in response to the US having missile silos in Turkey though. A deal got made in the end by both the US and USSR to remove both sets of missiles. That's a pretty basic overview but do some research on it, it's quite chilling to know how close to the brink it came.

 

[DotCommunist]

Because they are Communist and have a literacy rate that put the Americans to shame.

 

[weltweit]

The Cuban missile crisis was the closest the USA & USSR came to direct war during the cold war period.

 

[DotCommunist]

The Cuban missile crisis was the closest the USA & USSR came to direct war during the cold war period.

Well there were the proxy wars of Vietnam/Afghanistan. But yeah, it was the hottest toe-to-toe of the Cold War.

 

[rikwakefield]

I thought the Cold War was over. Why are there still sanctions on Cuba?

 

[TitanSound]

But yeah, pretty fucked up that they are still seen as some evil commie state. The trade embargo farce is just that, a farce.

I thought the Cold War was over. Why are there still sanctions on Cuba?

My point exactly

 

[weltweit]

There are a lot of Cuba Libre types in Florida around Miami and there have been times when they have threatenned invasion of Cuba. Nothing seems to have come of it though.

 

[DotCommunist]

Nobody wants another Bay of Pigs eh.

 

[rikwakefield]

My point exactly

So there's no answer then? I wonder if Obama will do anything about it.

 

[weltweit]

Nobody wants another Bay of Pigs eh.

I have heard of the bay of pigs but I don't recall exactly what happenned.. what happenned?

 

[rikwakefield]

I have heard of the bay of pigs but I don't recall exactly what happenned.. what happenned?

Is that a dig at me, or am I just being oversensitive now?

 

[DotCommunist]

I have heard of the bay of pigs but I don't recall exactly what happenned.. what happenned?

CIA motivated attempt at a counter revolution against the Castro government. Disaster.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

 

[TitanSound]

I have heard of the bay of pigs but I don't recall exactly what happenned.. what happenned?

Cuban exiles trained by the CIA launched an invasion attempt. They had woeful air cover though so were stopped in their tracks very easily.

Edit: Damn you Commie you er...bloody Commie

 

[phildwyer]

There are a lot of Cuba Libre types in Florida around Miami and there have been times when they have threatenned invasion of Cuba. Nothing seems to have come of it though.

I've also heard that there are a lot of Communist types in Moscow who have sometimes threatened to overthrow the Tsar. Nothing seems to have come of it though.

 

[kyser_soze]

Jesus suffering fuck, is this the special educational needs corner or something?

Read this
then
read this
then
this

For fictional references based on fact, I would recommened Godfather Pt II and James Ellory's novel American Tabloid WRT pre-revolutionary Cuba, and why the revolution happened. Another good film about the period as seen from the Whitehouse is 13 Days.

And America doesn't hate Cuba. America loves Cuba. It hates Castro and the Communists there. Indeed, once Fidel has died there's a chance that Raoul will negotiate with the US to lift the embargo - there are certainly plenty of US companies that lobby for it every year.

 

[weltweit]

Is that a dig at me, or am I just being oversensitive now?

You are being oversensitive!!

 

[rikwakefield]

Jesus suffering fuck, is this the special educational needs corner or something?

Read this
then
read this
then
this

For fictional references based on fact, I would recommened Godfather Pt II and James Ellory's novel American Tabloid WRT pre-revolutionary Cuba, and why the revolution happened. Another good film about the period as seen from the Whitehouse is 13 Days.

And America doesn't hate Cuba. America loves Cuba. It hates Castro and the Communists there. Indeed, once Fidel has died there's a chance that Raoul will negotiate with the US to lift the embargo - there are certainly plenty of US companies that lobby for it every year.

Sometimes I like discussing things with a real person.

If you're offended by my asking, why bother clicking in and then replying? Seems counter-intuitive to your point.

Thanks for the input anyway.

 

[phildwyer]

I've heard there is an angry monk in Germany who thinks we should all stop buying indulgences. Nothing seems to have come of it though.

 

[TitanSound]

Jesus suffering fuck, is this the special educational needs corner or something?

You are being oversensitive!!

Possibly not

 

[DotCommunist]

Jesus suffering fuck, is this the special educational needs corner or something?

Read this
then
read this
then
this

For fictional references based on fact, I would recommened Godfather Pt II and James Ellory's novel American Tabloid WRT pre-revolutionary Cuba, and why the revolution happened. Another good film about the period as seen from the Whitehouse is 13 Days.

And America doesn't hate Cuba. America loves Cuba. It hates Castro and the Communists there. Indeed, once Fidel has died there's a chance that Raoul will negotiate with the US to lift the embargo - there are certainly plenty of US companies that lobby for it every year.

It's worth watching Che part 1 for some good fictional stuff on the Cuban revolution.

And that revolution did wonders for Cuba. It is by no means a perfect regime but it is far better than what preceded it. It's strongman communism, essentially. But isn't Obama lionised and adored despite the flaws of his governance?

 

[phildwyer]

I've heard there are a lot of Visigoth types in northern Italy who sometimes threaten to sack Rome. Nothing seems to have come of it though.

 

[weltweit]

Lots of UK photographers love to go to Cuba because of the colourful and dilapidated buildings. Actually not just the buildings but the general run downedness of the place and of course the ancient American cars.

"Dilapidation tourism" you could call it.