Why Did Darwinism Emerge?

[TruXta]

It historicizes them. It removes them from the realm of transcendent truth, and demonstrates that they are appropriate only to the capitalist phase of history.

It also suggests that anti-capitalists should be very suspicious, at best, of Darwinism.

I think you're the only one in this thread suggesting that evolution by natural selection is a transcendent truth. The fact that science is socially produced (which it by definition has to be) has no bearing on the pragmatic truth of scientific theories. But, by your logic geometry, being a product of the ancient world, should only be appropriate to pre-moderns.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Started reading thread. Lost will to continue.

Oh dear.

 

[TruXta]

It's bunfight fo sho.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

There's a bunfight too? Didn't make it to that bit.

oh dear. Oh dear.

 

[Crispy]

And as for you, I take it that you did Google the phrases I asked you to?

Are you now prepared to admit the existence of Darwinism, which you once so vehemently denied?

If so, my work here has not entirely been in vain.

That word. I do not think it means what you think it means...

 

[ViolentPanda]

Anyway, to be serious for a second, you have many faults but you're fairly well-read.

You know perfectly well that I'm basically right on this thread (a few exaggerations notwithstanding), concerning the ideological connection between Darwinism and capitalism. I know you know, you know I know you know etc. It is an interesting insight into your character that you can't bring yourself to admit it.

You don't know anything of the sort, and attempting to imply that you do gives me a very interesting insight into your character, albeit the insight tends to confirm what has previously been noted by myself and others.

 

[TruXta]

There's a bunfight too? Didn't make it to that bit.

oh dear. Oh dear.

Most of the thread is tbh. It's not very amusing, I'm afraid.

 

[phildwyer]

I think you're the only one in this thread suggesting that evolution by natural selection is a transcendent truth. The fact that science is socially produced (which it by definition has to be) has no bearing on the pragmatic truth of scientific theories. But, by your logic geometry, being a product of the ancient world, should only be appropriate to pre-moderns.

Geometry is a transcendent truth. So is mathematics. Therein lies their difference from Darwinism.

 

[phildwyer]

That word. I do not think it means what you think it means...

But you concede what you once denied: that there is such a thing?

YES/NO

 

[phildwyer]

You don't know anything of the sort, and attempting to imply that you do gives me a very interesting insight into your character, albeit the insight tends to confirm what has previously been noted by myself and others.

You are a liar.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You are a liar.

We're all liars, phil. I'm not, however, lying on this particular point.

 

[phildwyer]

We're all liars, phil. I'm not, however, lying on this particular point.

You know you are. I know you know you are. You know I know you know you are.

Why do you bother? Are you trying to impress people like Toggle? Because there are less disgraceful ways to do that. I can show you some if you like.

 

[ViolentPanda]

You know you are. I know you know you are. You know I know you know you are.

Repeating your erroneous claim doesn't make it any less erroneous.
It does make your twatitude fairly obvious, though.

Why do you bother? Are you trying to impress people like Toggle? Because there are less disgraceful ways to do that. I can show you some if you like.

I leave the attempting to impress women to the likes of you, phil. It often results in truly hilarious threads.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Geometry is a transcendent truth. So is mathematics. Therein lies their difference from Darwinism.

I don't much like the concept 'transcendent truth', but the process of natural selection is certainly one if mathematics is one. It is, in fact, nothing more than an extension of mathematics, an application of logic. It happens, and it couldn't not happen.

 

[phildwyer]

I leave the attempting to impress women to the likes of you, phil.

So I've noticed.

You are a damned liar though, and you know it.

Now we await Crispy's response. I cannot believe he will prove as low as you have.

 

[phildwyer]

I don't much like the concept 'transcendent truth', but the process of natural selection is certainly one if mathematics is one. It is, in fact, nothing more than an extension of mathematics, an application of logic. It happens, and it couldn't not happen.

You really need to read the thread if you want to join in.

Not being nasty, it's just that we've dealt with this before and there's no need to go through it again.

 

[TruXta]

Geometry is a transcendent truth. So is mathematics. Therein lies their difference from Darwinism.

Anthropocentric much?

 

[TruXta]

You really need to read the thread if you want to join in.

Not being nasty, it's just that we've dealt with this before and there's no need to go through it again.

Bullshit.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

 

[ViolentPanda]

So I've noticed.

What, that leaving it to you results in hilarious threads?

So you should have noticed. You've humiliated yourself often enough.

You are a damned liar though, and you know it.

As I said, we're all liars. Unfortunately for you, I'm not lying w/r/t your claim.

Now we await Crispy's response. I cannot believe he will prove as low as you have.

Neither of us can match you for that, phil, however hard we labour.

 

[toggle]

You know you are. I know you know you are. You know I know you know you are.

Why do you bother? Are you trying to impress people like Toggle? Because there are less disgraceful ways to do that. I can show you some if you like.

there is absolutely nothing you could possibly do that would leave me impressed with you.

 

[ViolentPanda]

there is absolutely nothing you could possibly do that would leave me impressed with you.

Not even if he topped himself in an extremely inventive and gruesome way?

 

[toggle]

Not even if he topped himself in an extremely inventive and gruesome way?

woudln't do it either i'm afraid.

 

[phildwyer]

there is absolutely nothing you could possibly do that would leave me impressed with you.

That's why you're hanging around here I take it?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Poor phil.
He still doesn't realise that the reason people come on his threads is to watch him make a fool of himself.

 

[toggle]

That's why you're hanging around here I take it?

oh dear.

are you suggesting everyone who has posted on this thread has a secret interesty in you phil, or just me?

but personally, you're really not my type, someone who gets drunk and mouths off abuse at people when they've lost an arguement isn't my thing.

 

[phildwyer]

are you suggesting everyone who has posted on this thread has a secret interesty in you phil, or just me?

You and Greebo, basically. I'm not stupid you know.

 

[phildwyer]

He still doesn't realise that the reason people come on his threads is to watch him make a fool of himself.

You keep telling yourself that, Panda.

And I'll tell you something for nothing: you're very lucky I'm a nice guy, or you would be finding yourself single in short order.

 

[Pickman's model]

You keep telling yourself that, Panda.

And I'll tell you something for nothing: you're very lucky I'm a nice guy, or you would be finding yourself single in short order.

nice guys finish last in life's great race

 

[toggle]

You and Greebo, basically. I'm not stupid you know.

you are however, delusional