Who will be the next Labour leader?

[fakeplasticgirl]

Lisa Nandy is growing on me, but it does pain me that she voted for BoZo’s deal, legitimising it and allowing him to say it was “oven ready”, and is now “shocked” that he’s taken out the workers rigts provisions etc.

 

[Supine]

Lisa Nandy is growing on me, but it does pain me that she voted for BoZo’s deal, legitimising it and allowing him to say it was “oven ready”, and is now “shocked” that he’s taken out the workers rigts provisions etc.

Didn't they vote to allow it to go through committee stages rather than a vote of acceptance?

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Didn't they vote to allow it to go through committee stages rather than a vote of acceptance?

Yes. You think that was a good idea?

 

[fakeplasticgirl]

Still... she sounds pretty good. Might go down well with people.

 

[Supine]

Yes. You think that was a good idea?

I don't think any of this is a good idea!

 

[cupid_stunt]

Worth remembering that this defeat is very much a consequence of Blair's victory.

Pardon? Are you forgetting how well Labour did in the 2017, vote share up 10% compared to 2015?

You can't blame the drop from 41% in 2017 to 32% in 2019 on Blair, that's down to the current [lack of] leadership.

 

[chilango]

Pardon? Are you forgetting how well Labour did in the 2017, vote share up 10% compared to 2015?

You can't blame the drop from 41% in 2017 to 32% in 2019 on Blair, that's down to the current [lack of] leadership.

No. But I can blame the shift in focus from Labour away from its "working class heartlands" towards "middle England" on the Blair era. It's no coincidence that from the late 90s we saw the BNP emerge as an electoral force in exactly the same sort of seats that have just been won by the Tories.

 

[SpackleFrog]

This is a solid pitch from Starmer this evening - he's way ahead of everyone else.

Another future is possible – for our country and our party - LabourList

Irritatingly good.

 

[SpackleFrog]

Pardon? Are you forgetting how well Labour did in the 2017, vote share up 10% compared to 2015?

You can't blame the drop from 41% in 2017 to 32% in 2019 on Blair, that's down to the current [lack of] leadership.

Wat?

Don't the current leadership get some credit for pushing the vote up by 10% in two years and 2017?

And didn't Blair's constant demands and pressure for Labour to become a Remain party have an effect in 2019?

 

[Pickman's model]

the most pressing question is when will derf next try to show us how thick we are and how clever he is, now he seems to have retired that political genius Don Troooomp

 

[cupid_stunt]

Wat?

Don't the current leadership get some credit for pushing the vote up by 10% in two years and 2017?

Yes, they had re-built the Labour vote, shame they went on to piss it away again.

And didn't Blair's constant demands and pressure for Labour to become a Remain party have an effect in 2019?

No. The likes of Mcdonnell, Starmer & co were the reason for Labour's confused message on Brexit, basically a remain position, they had much more effect than anything Blair said.

 

[friedaweed]

Still Northern.

Spoiler: :)

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Blasphemous cunt!

 

[killer b]

Yes, they had re-built the Labour vote, shame they went on to piss it away again.

it isn't really true that they rebuilt the Labour vote - the trend in the former heartlands was still in a downwards trajectory - hence Mansfield going, etc.

 

[Shechemite]

Thing is, blair wasn't a cunt just because of iraq. He was a cunt for all sorts of reasons. New labour was shit.

The far left acting like a mob again

 

[The39thStep]

it isn't really true that they rebuilt the Labour vote - the trend in the former heartlands was still in a downwards trajectory - hence Mansfield going, etc.

Very true .

 

[The39thStep]

Well Angela Rayner has , if it’s an authentic Twitter account, just promised that under her leadership Labour would re apply to join the EU at first opportunity . Timing couldn’t have been better.

 

[killer b]

Well Angela Rayner has , if it’s an authentic Twitter account, just promised that under her leadership Labour would re apply to join the EU at first opportunity . Timing couldn’t have been better.

this is her authentic twitter account and it says nothing of the sort.

Angela Rayner (@AngelaRayner) on Twitter

 

[killer b]

it's so easy to check this stuff.

 

[butchersapron]

Course it ain't real!

 

[kebabking]

Well Angela Rayner has , if it’s an authentic Twitter account, just promised that under her leadership Labour would re apply to join the EU at first opportunity . Timing couldn’t have been better.

I don't think it is. It's not on her account.

 

[The39thStep]

this is her authentic twitter account and it says nothing of the sort.

Angela Rayner (@AngelaRayner) on Twitter

You’re right that’s me speed reading Twitter . It’s a parody account .

 

[ska invita]

This is a solid pitch from Starmer this evening - he's way ahead of everyone else.

Another future is possible – for our country and our party - LabourList

... And that's how OJ Simpson got off

 

[butchersapron]

Only a candidate who fell under the evil eye of mason would say that - so maybe Lewis.

 

[killer b]

Even Vince Cable has been saying it's time to move on - no serious politician is going to be making a case to rejoin for at least a few years.

 

[chilango]

Even Vince Cable has been saying it's time to move on - no serious politician is going to be making a case to rejoin for at least a few years.

So Swinson then?

 

[Shechemite]

Fun to watch ‘hard left’ (lol) remainer Vermin and the blairite remainer vermin slug it out

 

[killer b]

she doesn't even fulfil the politician criteria anymore, never mind the serious bit.

 

[Shechemite]

Rejoiners of all the talents

 

[Shechemite]

Rejoin Direct Action Federation

 

[cupid_stunt]

So Swinson then?

she doesn't even fulfil the politician criteria anymore, never mind the serious bit.