Who will be the next Labour leader?

[SpackleFrog]

damn, RLB's odds have collapsed, barely any point putting any money on.

Lisa Nandy has shorter odds than Keir Starmer now.

Yeah was 5/1 Saturday, we've missed the boat. Could see Nandy getting it though.

 

[ska invita]

Is there any footage of #Becky (for that will be her name) getting angry/passionate in her speaking? Just arguing even

 

[manji]

Anyone who considers Jess Philips needs to do some more investigation. The first time I saw she was making an impressive firebrand speech against the Tories,dressed quite shabbily, no make , northern accent. Strangely she kept apologising to Bercow about about breaking protocol as she was new to this building (she’d been an MP for 5 years ) which he sympathised with.
The whammy of the speech was she attacking MPs like Kenneth Clarke for not supporting de Pfeffel.
Turns out she’s close friends with Rees Mogg amongst others and then over the weekend there were stories in the Right Wing press that Jess would be the Labour leader the Tories would fear most.

 

[treelover]

She makes a fair point and obviously I would agree with being less london centric, labour looking to rebuild appeal with the towns and cities that have sustained it for a century and all that. Really as part of a more substantive move towards listening to and representing working class interests. I do hope it is that though and not just a swing towards having more professional northerners and talking about The North (the capitals are dead important) without anything of any substance really changing. Greyscale photo shoots of Burnham standing in the rain.

Well, he is a Joy Division fan.

 

[treelover]

RBL is a really decent person, but she is atm, charisma free, Lisa would be good, but maybe not strong enough at PMQ's, which seems to matter a lot to the bubble.

 

[billy_bob]

I don’t buy all this needing someone from the north to reconnect with northern voters. Johnson seems to have managed pretty well for the tories with zero northern credentials.

If Labour were to think that is some kind of silver bullet back to winning the north then it’d be naive to say the least.

Yeah, this chimes with what I said earlier about 'they don't like Corbyn' being a red herring. People in the north might warm more readily to a northerner than a southerner, all other things being equal. But give us some credit - I think most of us'll take to a southerner saying and doing the right things much more than a northerner not.

 

[billy_bob]

RBL is a really decent person, but she is atm, charisma free

Agree - I'd rather see AR and her reversing their targeted roles here. I think they're both fairly good on substance but AR exudes passion, and anger when it's needed. RBL is too robotic.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Note to manji : Jess Phillips does not have a northern accent.

She has a, trying slightly too hard, Birmingham accent. Which is in the West Midlands

 

[cupid_stunt]

Note to manji : Jess Phillips does not have a northern accent.

She has a, trying slightly too hard, Birmingham accent. Which is in the West Midlands

Still Northern.

Spoiler: :-)

 

[Proper Tidy]

Anyone who considers Jess Philips needs to do some more investigation. The first time I saw she was making an impressive firebrand speech against the Tories,dressed quite shabbily, no make , northern accent. Strangely she kept apologising to Bercow about about breaking protocol as she was new to this building (she’d been an MP for 5 years ) which he sympathised with.
The whammy of the speech was she attacking MPs like Kenneth Clarke for not supporting de Pfeffel.
Turns out she’s close friends with Rees Mogg amongst others and then over the weekend there were stories in the Right Wing press that Jess would be the Labour leader the Tories would fear most.

Not a fan but I don't think she's part of a tory headbanger conspiracy, also her accent is I'm told affected but it isn't in any way 'northern'

 

[billy_bob]

Still Northern.

Spoiler: :)

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I don't know what this shit is. The North starts at Gateshead.

 

[cupid_stunt]

RBL is a really decent person, but she is atm, charisma free.

RBL is too robotic.

Talking to people I know, the general impression is she doesn't come across well, the impression is that she comes across as shouting at you, rather than talking to you.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I don't know what this shit is. The North starts at Gateshead.

Wherever it starts it don’t include Jess Phillips or Birmingham

 

[Pickman's model]

Wherever it starts it don’t include Jess Phillips or Birmingham

That's where it ends

 

[Pickman's model]

I don't know what this shit is. The North starts at Gateshead.

Junction 1 of the M1 I think you'll find

 

[manji]

Note to manji : Jess Phillips does not have a northern accent.

She has a, trying slightly too hard, Birmingham accent. Which is in the West Midlands

In the speech she did. Apparently she has 10 different accents which she uses as required.

 

[billy_bob]

Talking to people I know, the general impression is she doesn't come across well, the impression is that she comes across as shouting at you, rather than talking to you.

In the TV debate I also noticed a tendency not to make eye contact. Not helpful when people are making snap but very important judgements about whether or not they warm to you.

 

[andysays]

Who's the AR people are referring to?

 

[belboid]

Who's the AR people are referring to?

Angela Rayner

 

[andysays]

Of course

at self

 

[cantsin]

Talking to people I know, the general impression is she doesn't come across well, the impression is that she comes across as shouting at you, rather than talking to you.

exactly how I took her response to gentle enquiry re : Open Selection pre Con 2018 - dismissive, almost shouty

 

[treelover]

I think its likely to be AR, but i hope it is an inclusive contest. Apprewntly Lisa is the centrists choice atm, yet she broadly supports the 2017 manifesto, bits of 2019.

 

[cantsin]

RLB & AR agree a pact to go for Leader and Deputy respectively, twitter says.

Apparently she's a "Good Catholic".

oh ffs

 

[andysays]

TBH, I don't have a problem with someone regularly abstaining in a vote changing abortion laws, in anywhere near the way I would if they regularly voted against liberalising the law.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

In the speech she did. Apparently she has 10 different accents which she uses as required.

Amazing. Thanks for the investigative work you do.

 

[treelover]

Jess Philips is a fake in some ways, but she stood up to the homophobes outside the school, fought hard on domestic violence, etc.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Jess Philips is a fake in some ways, but she stood up to the homophobes outside the school, fought hard on domestic violence, etc.

She can do 10 accents as well

 

[treelover]

Has Ed said anything yet?

 

[Pickman's model]

She can do 10 accents as well

Ah but does she fire juggle?

 

[Pickman's model]

Has Ed said anything yet?

ed nigma?

Or Ed from years ago?