Who will be the next Labour leader?

[Sprocket.]

A colleague was just telling us Kevin Maguire of The Mirror is tipping Lisa Nandy, Maguire states that she could reconnect with the working class tory voters.

 

[ska invita]

Sorry but

i think the crucial bit there is

 

[treelover]

A colleague was just telling us Kevin Maguire of The Mirror is tipping Lisa Nandy, Maguire states that she could reconnect with the working class tory voters.

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maybe better described as ex labour voters, not sure they are fully bought up to Conservative ideas, etc.

 

[Pickman's model]

maybe better described as ex labour voters, not sure they are fully bought up to Conservative ideas, etc.

sometime labour voters. they may not be bought but they're doubtless hired.

 

[ska invita]

huge numbers would have looked past his more Islington tendencies

what are Corbyn's "Islington tendencies"?

 

[treelover]

are you trying to smoke out people who want to see less immigration, etc?

 

[Pickman's model]

what are Corbyn's "Islington tendencies"?

supporting arsenal no doubt

 

[Smokeandsteam]

supporting arsenal no doubt

allotments

 

[ska invita]

are you trying to smoke out people who want to see less immigration, etc?

no. is islington something to do with immigration now?

 

[treelover]

Labour leader contender Lisa Nandy sparks Twitter frenzy by pointing out BBC bias on Marr

Lisa Nandy has a real go at the BBC's southern bias

only link i could find

 

[Sprocket.]

maybe better described as ex labour voters, not sure they are fully bought up to Conservative ideas, etc.

No guarantees that some ever voted labour.

 

[Proper Tidy]

She makes a fair point and obviously I would agree with being less london centric, labour looking to rebuild appeal with the towns and cities that have sustained it for a century and all that. Really as part of a more substantive move towards listening to and representing working class interests. I do hope it is that though and not just a swing towards having more professional northerners and talking about The North (the capitals are dead important) without anything of any substance really changing. Greyscale photo shoots of Burnham standing in the rain.

 

[billy_bob]

what are Corbyn's "Islington tendencies"?

Just using it as shorthand for perceptions that have been heard on the doorstep in working class northern places - that may be reductive bollocks but still have played a part in any disconnect expressed in such places. But in any case part of my point was I think those things are overplayed in many what-went-wrong analyses.

 

[extra dry]

I first posted on this thread on 7 November. You joined the thread yesterday. So fuck off with your stalking nonsense.

E2A Uncontacted peoples in the amazon traditionally and widely referred to as tribes, it isn't in any way a put down.

If you are going down that way better to say collectives?

 

[Pickman's model]

If you are going down that way better to say collectives?

if i find myself down that way i'll ask the uncontacted peoples how they wish to be described. they may object to collectives on any number of grounds, perhaps because it may be associated with the economic policies of lenin and stalin.

 

[extra dry]

That's why labour lost.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's why labour lost.

no it isn't

 

[belboid]

RLB & AR agree a pact to go for Leader and Deputy respectively, twitter says.

 

[SpackleFrog]

RLB & AR agree a pact to go for Leader and Deputy respectively, twitter says.

Interesting. Looks like the official left candidate/s then. How do people see RLB's stance on abortion rights playing out?

 

[Pickman's model]

Interesting. Looks like the official left candidate/s then. How do people see RLB's stance on abortion rights playing out?

could you outline it for the uninitiated?

 

[Pickman's model]

on second thoughts, her voting record on it

 

[SpackleFrog]

could you outline it for the uninitiated?

Apparently she's a "Good Catholic".

 

[Pickman's model]

Apparently she's a "Good Catholic".

the only good catholic is a lapsed catholic

 

[SpackleFrog]

RLB & AR agree a pact to go for Leader and Deputy respectively, twitter says.

Apparently Richard Burgon says he will support RLB and go for the deputy leadership himself. Sky news though so fuck knows.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Apparently Richard Burgon says he will support RLB and go for the deputy leadership himself. Sky news though so fuck knows.

There was speculation on the radio this morning that Rayner would run as deputy on a joint ticket with RLB.

 

[brogdale]

There was speculation on the radio this morning that Rayner would run as deputy on a joint ticket with RLB.

tbh, Rayner going for Deputy seems to make sense...reckon she'd be quite a credible voice & all round attack dog.

 

[kebabking]

I don't understand how anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes with Richard Burgon could possibly think he could be an asset to them.

What constituency does he bring?

The man is a certifiable fuckwit - he literally drools while watching someone else tie his shoelaces.

 

[skyscraper101]

I don’t buy all this needing someone from the north to reconnect with northern voters. Johnson seems to have managed pretty well for the tories with zero northern credentials.

If Labour were to think that is some kind of silver bullet back to winning the north then it’d be naive to say the least.

 

[belboid]

damn, RLB's odds have collapsed, barely any point putting any money on.

Lisa Nandy has shorter odds than Keir Starmer now.

 

[Shechemite]

RLB and AR would coast it