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Will you will get a bike, a bed and a kitchen into an Alphard?
Actually I think I could make it work. I'd probably remove the Alphard's passenger seat, and put quick release fittings on the bike's handlebars, screen and front wheel. No garage, just have the bike fixed to the floor, under a fabric cover.

An outdoor shower like this one.



Probably no toilet. But perhaps a clever one like this.



No kitchen to speak of. Just a small fridge and the gas camping stove which I use for camping. And a Nespresso machine.

So, not a plush motorhome experience. But a big step up from camping. No stinky diesel. Easy parking. Stealth.
 
I’ve seen conversations that have a double bed at the back that pulls up to the ceiling in transit ( did you see what I did there) so you can fill the space with bikes and similar. Then lower the bed at your destination...
 
I’ve seen conversations that have a double bed at the back that pulls up to the ceiling in transit ( did you see what I did there) so you can fill the space with bikes and similar. Then lower the bed at your destination...

there is a tech mad T4 interior designer that does something similar. From memory it was made from carbon fibre and unobtainium and probably cost a decades wages

I’ll find a link


Possibly style and blather over substance
 
there is a tech mad T4 interior designer that does something similar. From memory it was made from carbon fibre and unobtainium and probably cost a decades wages

I’ll find a link


Possibly style and blather over substance
Their engineering looks good, their advertising copy wank.
 
I have a Leyland Daf converted horsebox...but this is huge (and we burnt out the clutch so it only goes backward now). However, if your driving licence was pre1992, it is legal to drive a 7.5tonne vehicle...and at a generous 24ft by 8ft living space, it is (just about) doable (not that I do it cos I am old and fucked and miss running hot water). Sadly, my PC has died with all my pics - will have to search old posts ...but it is a thing of beauty, clad in steel and red cedar.
 
My favourite starting point (today) is the Toyota Alphard. Eight seater "luxury MPV." A Japan-only model, so you import it. V. popular in the UK. There's a ULEZ-compliant hybrid 2.4 litre version which is rather like a Prius but with three electric motors. It can have a fridge etc. put in without extra batteries and chargers. Selectable 4WD. £5,500 gets you a 56,000 miler. No rust because Japan. Allegedly. Or get one already fitted out as a camper for £20-£30k.

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You can add a high roof and end up with a 4 bed camper van.

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I've got an Alphard. I imported it a few years back. It's the second car I've imported myself. They are very classy, comfortable things to drive. Like driving a plush sofa :D

I have thought about converting it. We'd have to get another little car if we did... And not sure how much we really would use it. Is it just a pleasant fantasy or something we really want to do.
 
I've got an Alphard. I imported it a few years back. It's the second car I've imported myself. They are very classy, comfortable things to drive. Like driving a plush sofa :D

I have thought about converting it. We'd have to get another little car if we did... And not sure how much we really would use it. Is it just a pleasant fantasy or something we really want to do.
Exciting! Which model have you got? Did you buy it from a Japanese person? Is there a Japanese site with Alphards for sale? Is it loads cheaper than getting a UK dealer to do it for you? I had a google and could only find very high priced ones. Many, many, many millions of yen.
 
Exciting! Which model have you got? Did you buy it from a Japanese person? Is there a Japanese site with Alphards for sale? Is it loads cheaper than getting a UK dealer to do it for you? I had a google and could only find very high priced ones. Many, many, many millions of yen.
It's a 3ltre petrol. Thirsty!

I used an auction agent. I've used them a couple of times. Auction price of the car (40k miles, 10 year's old) was less than £3k. However by the time you've paid local taxes, checks, shipping, customs, vat, switching over to UK, mot, etc - it was nearly £7k. This was a few years ago and the Alphard wasn't a known quantity here. I was initially looking for another estima - but then a good Alphard came up.

My advice:

1 - Japanese auctions are exhaustive and check every last detail of the car. They issue a report. If the dealer claims to not know anything about this and doesn't have the auction report - walk away. They are lying.
2 - Japanese auctions are controlled by the big dealers. Any cars they put in, they ring the price to keep the prices high. The value comes when a car is put into auction by a private seller.
 
I like the idea of touring in a van. One of the disadvantages of touring on a motorcycle is lack of space, lack of lockable space and lack of protection from the elements.

However motorbike or Van, you still have something you have to take responsibility for. From that point of view I think a low key van could be the best. A sort of Q van!
 
Am I the only person who ducks their head a little bit when driving a high van under height restriction bars?

Haha - nope; that and leaning forward to help with pulling her up the hills...

I parked in a Monaco multistorey carpark once, near the promenade seafront somewhere.

VW T25 hightop. The height clearance signs said 3m clearance, we're 2.90 from the top of the roofvent, so thought good news. Got into the car park under the hanging barrier ok (with the OH outside looking to see if we were okay). Then we discovered that although the entry had a 3m clearance, all their suspended lighting was at maybe 2m60 or so.

Cruuuunch. Light tracks are swinging, our roofvent cracks. Eeek

We found the French carpark attendant, and after much laughter and confusion, managed to get unhooked by letting the tyres down a fair bit, and having the CP attendant and all his colleagues (five in all) in the back.
There's nothing like driving with the thwap thwap thwappity thwap noise of four near-flat tyres to make everyone stare at you as you try to find a garage to pump them back up.

We don't do multi-storey now :D
 
I like the idea of touring in a van. One of the disadvantages of touring on a motorcycle is lack of space, lack of lockable space and lack of protection from the elements.

However motorbike or Van, you still have something you have to take responsibility for. From that point of view I think a low key van could be the best. A sort of Q van!
A panel van conversion is pretty close to that idea of a Q van. I'm certainly much happier driving one of those than a Tupperware Palace :)
 

I love this! I watched it all the way through and Virginia gave me a lot of certainty that van life should me my goal. Alphard Hybrid here we come. I also found a brilliant gadget for loading and storing a motorbike. It's £1800 but maybe I could make my own version of it.



 
Bad news on the van front. It'll pass the MOT fine (rear light lens has faded, but that's it), but there is a lot of corrosion. Because it's an Iveco, and therefore basically a truck with a chassis, it can't fail the MOT on rust, but his view is that it's got a year left in it.

Which might be a blessing in disguise, given that it's jointly owned with the ex, and she is still VERY proprietorial about it. Another apron string vanishes.

But I think I am keen enough on the idea that I shall start thinking about its successor. Definitely a big van again, maybe an Iveco Daily that isn't 24 years old.

ETA: because there's nothing quite like leaping from a high cab in a pair of sturdy boots :D
 
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I hear you. I used to have a Mercedes 609 and it was such fun. But I've discovered yet another reason to go small - Lambeth residents parking permits are limited to 2.3m height and 5.5m metres length. And anyway, I don't think a diesel would be a good long term bet, even if it's Euro 6. Whereas an Alphard Hybrid might have a long future if the battery can be upgraded in due course. Battery technology is developing fast. So perhaps the mpg will improve? Is this a reasonable expectation?

I've been reading about flares...the bulges you add to the side of your van to eke out the width. They cost a fortune...£1600+, typically for all of 3 inches. I'm tempted by the DIY approach. Buy an old roof box for cheap, and use the lid. Cut a hole in the van and fit the lid from the inside. Forget about painting it, just give the whole van a vinyl wrap. Matt green to assist with hiding in the trees. Go for the military look, and stencil a few warnings to give the impression that the bulge conceals a radar jammer or a surface to air missile.
 
Whereas an Alphard Hybrid might have a long future if the battery can be upgraded in due course. Battery technology is developing fast.

I spoke to the guy in Kilmarnock who does very nice Alphard conversions and asked what the benefit of the Hybrids was and he said 'nothing, they just make the owners feel better'. Despite having several cars for sale on Autotrader, they are backed up with orders and nothing available until June. Everyone wants a camper at the moment.
 
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I spoke to the guy in Kilmarnock who does very nice Alphard conversions and asked what the benefit of the Hybrids was and he said 'nothing, they just make the owners feel better'.
Doesn't it make it easier and cheaper to fit electrically powered stuff? I read somewhere that it comes with 110 volt sockets, and sometimes a fridge.
 
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