Who is the Patriotic Socialist Party?

[malatesta32]

I reckon some of these groups consist of no more than a dozen members. Colin 'Jumbo' Jordan's New Britain Party never seemed to have many members though it did produce a few Kippers like Nattrass and the other twat.

i think you may be over-estimating the numbers, facebook groups are digital paper organisations, the eejits in these groupuscules rapidly give up after a few months when they realise that no one cares.

 

[malatesta32]

Laughing at an alcoholic. Not cool. If the guy's a bigot get on his case for that. Don't sneer at him for having an affliction though.

there were three of them. they are assholes. its embarassing.

 

[N_igma]

A lot like the spectrum of paramilitary groupings you get at home. Awaits formation of the Real Patriotic Socialist Party.

 

[DotCommunist]

continuity patriotic socialist party m-l

 

[nino_savatte]

i think you may be over-estimating the numbers, facebook groups are digital paper organisations, the eejits in these groupuscules rapidly give up after a few months when they realise that no one cares.

Oops, I've confused Jordan's mob with Delderfield's lot (actually called the New Britain Party), which absorbed Patrick Moore's United Country Party in the early 80s. Delderfield's still around but his party isn't. It was deregistered in 2008.

 

[malatesta32]

easily done, many have multi 'party' membership until they all fallout. facebook fascists.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

easily done, many have multi 'party' membership until they all fallout. facebook fascists.

I'm not sure you can describe Colin Jordan or Dennis Delderfield Facebook Fascists...

 

[nino_savatte]

easily done, many have multi 'party' membership until they all fallout. facebook fascists.

Jordan was the leader of the National Socialist Movement and the World Union of National Socialists and he was more than just some bloke on Facebook. In fact, he formed the original BNP in the early 60s.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

I'm just imaginiing a young Tyndall 'liking' a racist post by Colin Jordan

 

[sandinista GB]

I have just had a little trawl on facebook and come up with a little more information on this new far right grouping. Some new names here including one veteran of various far right formations including the National Front from what I have read


Russell White
This party looks like the UPP...
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  National Workers Party of BritainWe understand that it is a new party that will include the UPP and others. The concept of patriotic socialism has existed for decades with the likes of Morris, Cole and Blatchford. People we include as influences already.
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  Russell WhiteI like the ideology of Morris, Cole and Blatchford. I have incorporated their ideas into the Populist Alliance, following converations with Nigel Bromage, who agreed with me that we needed a patriotic workers' party that was not race-hate or capitalistic but for a grass-roots movement that built from ordinary people and nt from big name money backers, unions, business etc. A movement that would not be held to ransom by powerful vested interests... Do you know Nigel? You'd probably see eye to eye with him........
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  National Workers Party of BritainThat is good to hear. Yes we know NB. He too has influenced our thinking on such matters. The idea of the NWP is to build a workers party, inclusive of patriotism and socialism.
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[A.A.Hakeem]

My friend past me this link, im surprised you have taken interest, Mark Brind calls me the Crazy one because he knows im the founder of Patriotic Socialism with my Jewish Bund Comrade Netheniel Ben Yahushua. Their 10 point plan is a rip off of my 11 point plan, their neither left nor right ideals is my words because I do hold both leftist and rightist views. We are anti Fascist, anti Nazi, anti Zionist, anti Capitalist anti Communist Socialists who are closest too Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, some say Gaddafi Jamahiriyah of Free Libya and loosely associated with our allies in Syria not the fake Revolutionary Terrorists.

The PSP are fruads a cheap rip off from the People Social Freedom Movement aka People Social Freedom Party. I knew they had EDL members in them, I knew they had Nationalist, I thought the Nationalists where not of the racist variety though like true Patriotic Socialists are. PSP are allies of Israel and 2 State Solution non sense, PSFM is not in favour of this at all we want justice and heads rolling in Israel at the ICC.

You go on their Facebook page and mention Azzaam Abdul Hakeem they will either try deny me or they will go mad hearing my name.

Sine the Neo Cons and Zionists call us Bolsheviks and Nazi's both at the same time Hail Comrade to all.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

sounds like Casually Red 's ideal party

 

[DotCommunist]

eh?

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Jordan was the leader of the National Socialist Movement and the World Union of National Socialists and he was more than just some bloke on Facebook. In fact, he formed the original BNP in the early 60s.

Hi Nino - just checked on this one: the BNP name was first used in 1942 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party_(1942)
The second-named BNP was created (as you say) in 1960, and was led by John Bean and Andrew Fountaine, with Messrs Jordan and Tyndall present and correct too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party_(1960)

Hope you don't mind me mentioning all this - thought you might be interested

 

[phildwyer]

Mark Brind calls me the Crazy one

Pah, what does he know?

It is he who is truly crazy.

 

[likesfish]

Another would be fuhrer There was some loon in croydon a few years back tried to get arrse to back him ended rather badly for him I seem to recall.
The left get into faction fights often in print or online. the right stock pile crossbows and replica guns and end up hitting one another
Niethers terribly productive but at least the left arnt much of a threat when the pubs kick out.

 

[nino_savatte]

My friend past me this link, im surprised you have taken interest, Mark Brind calls me the Crazy one because he knows im the founder of Patriotic Socialism with my Jewish Bund Comrade Netheniel Ben Yahushua. Their 10 point plan is a rip off of my 11 point plan, their neither left nor right ideals is my words because I do hold both leftist and rightist views. We are anti Fascist, anti Nazi, anti Zionist, anti Capitalist anti Communist Socialists who are closest too Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, some say Gaddafi Jamahiriyah of Free Libya and loosely associated with our allies in Syria not the fake Revolutionary Terrorists.

The PSP are fruads a cheap rip off from the People Social Freedom Movement aka People Social Freedom Party. I knew they had EDL members in them, I knew they had Nationalist, I thought the Nationalists where not of the racist variety though like true Patriotic Socialists are. PSP are allies of Israel and 2 State Solution non sense, PSFM is not in favour of this at all we want justice and heads rolling in Israel at the ICC.

You go on their Facebook page and mention Azzaam Abdul Hakeem they will either try deny me or they will go mad hearing my name.

Sine the Neo Cons and Zionists call us Bolsheviks and Nazi's both at the same time Hail Comrade to all.

[in Spock mode] Fascinating

 

[Idris2002]

[in Spock mode] Fascinating

Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a miracle worker.

 

[nino_savatte]

Hi Nino - just checked on this one: the BNP name was first used in 1942 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party_(1942)
The second-named BNP was created (as you say) in 1960, and was led by John Bean and Andrew Fountaine, with Messrs Jordan and Tyndall present and correct too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party_(1960)

Hope you don't mind me mentioning all this - thought you might be interested

Cheers. I'd forgotten about BNP Mk I or English National Association.

 

[malatesta32]

Cheers. I'd forgotten about BNP Mk I or English National Association.

so has everyone else mate!

 

[nino_savatte]

so has everyone else mate!

History. Causality. It's a shame some folk are rather too prepared to forget or ignore history. No?

 

[MellySingsDoom]

Cheers. I'd forgotten about BNP Mk I or English National Association.

I'd also forgotten that there was a BNP Mk3, based in the Leeds area in the late 70's (77-78?) and led by Eddy Morrison. They were open Hitlerites, and were involved in some violent street actions. Their activites are covered in the 1978 World In Action documentary about the NF, "The Nazi Party", which is currently avaiable on YouTube.

 

[nino_savatte]

I'd also forgotten that there was a BNP Mk3, based in the Leeds area in the late 70's (77-78?) and led by Eddy Morrison. They were open Hitlerites, and were involved in some violent street actions. Their activites are covered in the 1978 World In Action documentary about the NF, "The Nazi Party", which is currently avaiable on YouTube.

I remember that bastard, Morrison.

I'll have a look for that video.

 

[DotCommunist]

Cheers. I'd forgotten about BNP Mk I or English National Association.

colloquially known as the sharples

 

[malatesta32]

I remember that bastard, Morrison.

I'll have a look for that video.

he's back with a splinter faction of NF. he got bottled on the heed by leeds antifascists which 'shook him up'' according to one fash.

 

[A.A.Hakeem]

Pah, what does he know?

It is he who is truly crazy.

Fascist in denial today I found him stalking me, he showed a picture of me in old Military file rank uniform, yet he said this is Fascism, im like what are you stupid man, its real Patriotism to serve your people and to be loyal to your country men regardless of their backgrounds.

 

[A.A.Hakeem]

[in Spock mode] Fascinating

They started their silly bigoted Party November 2013, I had our Manifesto up by 2010, I am happy to share for people to read and decide if this self professed Patriotic Socialist is a Fascist like Brind or not. But they hate it when I call them UPP rejects.

 

[Idris2002]

They started their silly bigoted Party November 2013, I had our Manifesto up by 2010, I am happy to share for people to read and decide if this self professed Patriotic Socialist is a Fascist like Brind or not. But they hate it when I call them UPP rejects.

This is pretty good material, Ern, but still not really up to the standard of your glory days.

 

[nino_savatte]

Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a miracle worker.

You are being emotional, Dr McCoy.

 

[Idris2002]

You are being emotional, Dr McCoy.