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Who is going to win the 2018/2019 Tory Leadership election?

Who is going to win the 2018/2019 Tory Leadership election?


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It really did look an older photo in terms of his hair length, but when I saw it I thought: 'surely they can't have posted an old photo to deceive people. They wouldn't be that stupid'. But...

his media management is appalling. said before - why the fuck didn't he come out and do the blustery apology - sorry to the neighbours - sure it sounded worse than it was - etc etc" - but his silence is making the story stick and grow.
And to follow it up with the pathetic old photo is .. well what are his team thinking?
It also raises the question of why he and his partner haven't done the "look we love each other" photo op? Telling that presumably she not even prepared to go through the motions - is she waiting in the wings ready to stick the knife in?
Now all of this will make much difference to the tory membership - but to the wider public - and his own mps - it just looks worse and worse.
how can the media go after corbyn as "not fit to be PM" when johnson is a walking talking disaster- evasive, blustering, untrustworthy, deceitful and bullying.
 
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I think we need a panel of experts to assess the state of the grasses, shadows and other flora and fauna to give us a likely date. Alan Titchmarsh and Charlie Dimmock to do the hard work, maybe Monty Don to chair it and add a bit of gravitas. Bit like the Chilcot Inquiry, but with a greater focus on picnic furniture.

According to the Tories it’s ‘grasses’ that put Johnson in his current predicament.
 
why the fuck didn't he come out and do the blustery apology - sorry to the neighbours - sure it sounded worse than it was - etc etc".
Because there is a recording, and no way of definitively suppressing it. Any attempt to explain or minimise what may or may not be on it makes it more likely the recording will somehow make it into the public domain IMO. And regardless whether it may sound worse than it is, it probably still sounds really bad.
 
his media management is appalling. said before - why the fuck didn't he come out and do the blustery apology - sorry to the neighbours - sure it sounded worse than it was - etc etc" - but his silence is making the story stick and grow.
And to follow it up with the pathetic old photo is .. well what are his team thinking?
It also raises the question of why he and his partner haven't done the "look we love each other" photo op? Telling that presumably she not even prepared to go through the motions - is she waiting in the wings ready to stick the knife in?
Now all of this will make little difference to the tory membership - but to the wider public - and his own mps - it just looks worse and worse.
how can the media go after corbyn as "not fit to be PM" when johnson is a walking talking disaster- evasive, blustering, untrustworthy, deceitful and bullying.
For someone with a fair wind of media support behind him, yes, he does somehow manage to fuck up his PR. Just over the last few days I've heard 'they are very much still in love'... 'Boris wants to go back to his previous wife'... 'previous wife and/or Carrie Symonds are sick of his cheating'. It's as if his media management is a mirror of his own internal blathering.
 
For someone with a fair wind of media support behind him, yes, he does somehow manage to fuck up his PR. Just over the last few days I've heard 'they are very much still in love'... 'Boris wants to go back to his previous wife'... 'previous wife and/or Carrie Symonds are sick of his cheating'. It's as if his media management is a mirror of his own internal blathering.
if he can't make up his mind about upon which unfortunate woman he will inflict his company how badly is he going to deal with complex international affairs?
 
Because there is a recording, and no way of definitively suppressing it. Any attempt to explain or minimise what may or may not be on it makes it more likely the recording will somehow make it into the public domain IMO. And regardless whether it may sound worse than it is, it probably still sounds really bad.
That sounds reasonable though, unless there's an injunction (would we know? Dunno.) I'd have thought we'd at least have had a bit more detail about the tape, particularly if it's bad. By now dozens if not more journos and others have heard it. It's clearly not just sat in the guardian vaults, I heard some tory commentator (can't remember who) saying he'd heard it the other day.
 
The prurience and critical 'hair length' issues aside the revelation of the media blitz is that he has absolutely no plan or strategy for delivering Brexit - by agreement or not
I think Johnson's going to win and probably win easily in the end. I think he'll also have a fair to middling chance of getting some kind of brexit deal (or no deal) through, though no better than that. The irony is though, it's his lying and dodging that is more likely to create a problem for him that his complete failure to think through a 'good brexit'.
 
It doesn't matter if there's an injunction, it's a digital file of which there are thousands of copies already in existence - which can and will be shared outside of mainstream channels if he lies about what's on it. Right now there isn't enough reason for that to happen.
 
It doesn't matter if there's an injunction, it's a digital file of which there are thousands of copies already in existence - which can and will be shared outside of mainstream channels if he lies about what's on it. Right now there isn't enough reason for that to happen.
Genuine q, if perhaps a naïve one: if there are anything like that many copies out there, why have we not heard it? If the tape is in multiple hands, there won't be an agreement to hold on to it till he comes out with anything that contradicts the tape.
 
This is a Boris supporter

Elsewhere in the heart of the constituency, Lorraine Kimber’s elderly German friend Helen Lipskombe raised no objections when she described her hero Johnson as a “young Churchill”.

As they sipped their coffees, Lipskombe, 90, nodded her approval and interrupted Kimber’s gushing over the wannabe prime minister to say, “Yes, I love Boris too!”
Lipskombe moved from Kiel in Germany to England in 1948 and until March this year worked behind the bar of the local Conservative club for 30 years. “I only met Boris once in the club during an election campaign but he was very nice, lovely manners, polite to everyone,” she said.

Kimber was outraged on Johnson’s behalf. “They are out to get Boris,” she thundered. “They are trying to do him down because they are desperate to stop him. He’s too intelligent for his opponent so they will resort to anything. Bless poor Boris, he doesn’t deserve this, nobody does. I still have faith in him, faith that he will take us out of Europe where we will be far better off. He really does remind me of a young Churchill.”

Uxbridge on Boris Johnson: 'No one has seen him here in years'
 
Maybe there isn't that many, but the people who've heard it haven't been to the guardian's offices so Kath Viner can press play on a dictaphone - they've been emailed an MP3.

I expect there's an injunction which is stopping the press releasing it, but if Johnson lies or downplays it, it only takes one person to leak it and it's out there.
 
At least Trump has state rights, House and Senate and the Constitution to bother him. Johnson will have no such fetters.
 
Maybe there isn't that many, but the people who've heard it haven't been to the guardian's offices so Kath Viner can press play on a dictaphone - they've been emailed an MP3.

I expect there's an injunction which is stopping the press releasing it, but if Johnson lies or downplays it, it only takes one person to leak it and it's out there.
I'm not really disputing this, just trying to think through the practicalities on the ground. The guardian would be on slightly tricky ground releasing the tape, in light of their big push on issues that lead up to Leveson, even more so as the police are not interested. Nevertheless, on balance, I suspect they'd fight an injunction and claim there was a public interest. Again, not sure but have a feeling some injunctions come with an injunction on publicising the injunction (John Terry superinjunction)? But it just seems a bit odd that nothing has dribbled out since Friday and the original story.
 
And after years of miserable austerity, felt most keenly by the poor, this arsehole is gonna give a tax break to the relatively well off.

He thinks £150,000 a year is chickenfeed, so £80,000 a year must be full-on poverty or something.

Think it’s a very London-cantered view of what people earn which is typical of his circle and outlook. I was barely over halfway to the upper tax bracket despite a masters degree and nearly two decades experience in a technical subject, not even my boss would have been on £50,000. I guess his bits of London are stuffed full of people getting other people to earn that for them in marketing, consultancy or whatever. Elsewhere people work hard all week and don’t have enough to pay their rent. Fuck his ignorant elitist world.
 
It really did look an older photo in terms of his hair length, but when I saw it I thought: 'surely they can't have posted an old photo to deceive people. They wouldn't be that stupid'. But...
As i keep saying. They are not stupid. They know their demographic well.
 
Because there is a recording, and no way of definitively suppressing it. Any attempt to explain or minimise what may or may not be on it makes it more likely the recording will somehow make it into the public domain IMO. And regardless whether it may sound worse than it is, it probably still sounds really bad.

But how bad can the tape be that he cant bluster his way out of it? i mean - screaming abuse at each other? - he can pass that off as a "heated row". As mentioned before - unless it sounds like hes beating the shit out of her, i cant see what would be on the tape thats forcing him to stay schtum - and if it was that bad im sure the neighbours and the media would have at least hinted at it.
Nah - im going with baffling incompetence (see also - the risible picnic photo)
 
But how bad can the tape be that he cant bluster his way out of it? i mean - screaming abuse at each other? - he can pass that off as a "heated row". As mentioned before - unless it sounds like hes beating the shit out of her, i cant see what would be on the tape thats forcing him to stay schtum - and if it was that bad im sure the neighbours and the media would have at least hinted at it.
Nah - im going with baffling incompetence (see also - the risible picnic photo)

What's on the tape has been widely reported, and backed-up by various neighbours' comments, and that is basically it - both the taped 'evidence' & neighbours' 'evidence' only confirms a 'heated row', nothing more.

Of course, people that wank-off over the idea that it may prove something more, from actual real physical abuse to murder, will continue to wank over their fantasies until their dicks drop off.
 
this is real.

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Not only is this weird but it smells like it's been completely made up on the hoof, probably because his hobbies are really grim porn or something
 
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