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Who is going to win the 2018/2019 Tory Leadership election?

Who is going to win the 2018/2019 Tory Leadership election?

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cupid_stunt said:
What's on the tape has been widely reported, and backed-up by various neighbours' comments, and that is basically it - both the taped 'evidence' & neighbours' 'evidence' only confirms a 'heated row', nothing more.

Of course, people that wank-off over the idea that it may prove something more, from actual real physical abuse to murder, will continue to wank over their fantasies until their dicks drop off.
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I suspect the tape doesn't indicate/cross some threshold/prove dv - and if there was something more I think the guardian would have been a little braver in terms of publication. However you are in danger of pushing back too far. Female screaming and 'get off me' raises a concern as to whether this was something other than egalitarian shouting. Maybe it was just a good old shouty thing of equals, but that isn't proven one way or the other. This isn't just a leftist wank fantasy and can't be reduced down to a desire for him to be fucked over.
 
Wilf said:
I suspect the tape doesn't indicate/cross some threshold/prove dv - and if there was something more I think the guardian would have been a little braver in terms of publication. However you are in danger of pushing back too far. Female screaming and 'get off me' raises a concern as to whether this was something other than egalitarian shouting. Maybe it was just a good old shouty thing of equals, but that isn't proven one way or the other. This isn't just a leftist wank fantasy and can't be reduced down to a desire for him to be fucked over.
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Anything is possible, but there's nothing to support anything more than a heated row.

I had an ex that lost it once, she was pissed & totally off her head, I wasn't, and to this day I have no idea why she throw a wine glass at me & stormed off into the kitchen & started to smash plates. I grabbed hold of her in an attempt to stop her & the damage she was causing, she screamed at me to get the fuck off her. I did, she fucked-off to bed in tears, I decided to sleep on the sofa, & next day she couldn't explain what had happened & just apologised, these things happen.

Carrie had a shit day, what with the news of John Worboys bringing up horrific memories, BJ comes in on a high, both get a bit drunk, the twat ruins her sofa with red wine, she understandably loses it with him. So, at what point did BJ perhaps grab hold of her to clam her down? When she grabbed his laptop? When she started smashing plates?

I've no idea, but what I do know is someone pissed-up in a heated row, male or female, screaming 'get off me' is not evidence of anything muchl. The fact the police were only there for just a few minutes, would indicate they had no concerns. She has made no complaint.
 
cupid_stunt said:
Anything is possible, but there's nothing to support anything more than a heated row.

I had an ex that lost it once, she was pissed & totally off her head, I wasn't, and to this day I have no idea why she throw a wine glass at me & stormed off into the kitchen & started to smash plates. I grabbed hold of her in an attempt to stop her & the damage she was causing, she screamed at me to get the fuck off her. I did, she fucked-off to bed in tears, I decided to sleep on the sofa, & next day she couldn't explain what had happened & just apologised, these things happen.

Carrie had a shit day, what with the news of John Worboys bringing up horrific memories, BJ comes in on a high, both get a bit drunk, the twat ruins her sofa with red wine, she understandably loses it with him. So, at what point did BJ perhaps grab hold of her to clam her down? When she grabbed his laptop? When she started smashing plates?

I've no idea, but what I do know is someone pissed-up in a heated row, male or female, screaming 'get off me' is not evidence of anything muchl. The fact the police were only there for just a few minutes, would indicate they had no concerns. She has made no complaint.
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In the absence of anything other than the few words reported, I don't think you can claim dv was occurring, but equally neither can you claim the bit in the middle. All you can say is that there are unanswered questions. That, just, that.

Must admit, in all the commentary I've seen on the tape/row, I haven't seen too much that has extrapolated a definitive conclusion of dv. Most of it, even from anti-Johnson posters or writers has been fairly measured on that specifically. Certainly not the wankfest you suggest. Much more has been written about him going into hiding, posting old photos and the rest.
 
cupid_stunt said:
I had an ex that lost it once, she was pissed & totally off her head, I wasn't, and to this day I have no idea why she throw a wine glass at me & stormed off into the kitchen & started to smash plates. I grabbed hold of her in an attempt to stop her & the damage she was causing, she screamed at me to get the fuck off her. I did, she fucked-off to bed in tears, I decided to sleep on the sofa, & next day she couldn't explain what had happened & just apologised, these things happen.

Carrie had a shit day, what with the news of John Worboys bringing up horrific memories, BJ comes in on a high, both get a bit drunk, the twat ruins her sofa with red wine, she understandably loses it with him. So, at what point did BJ perhaps grab hold of her to clam her down? When she grabbed his laptop? When she started smashing plates?

I've no idea, but what I do know is someone pissed-up in a heated row, male or female, screaming 'get off me' is not evidence of anything muchl. The fact the police were only there for just a few minutes, would indicate they had no concerns. She has made no complaint.
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Theres more unfounded speculation about what happened in this one post than in all of the left wing wank fantasies you're complaining about.
 
cupid_stunt said:
The fact the police were only there for just a few minutes, would indicate they had no concerns. She has made no complaint.
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and the fact that they refused to disclose they were there to the guardian until the guardian was able to tell them which vehicles were there? doesn't that suggest something to you?

and 'she's made no complaint'. yeh cos obvs lots of people would complain about boris johnson after his facilitating other people's revenge in the past and the probability that in a few days time he'd be able to order the repressive organs of the state to do something about you.
 
Wilf said:
In the absence of anything other than the few words reported, I don't think you can claim dv was occurring, but equally neither can you claim the bit in the middle. All you can say is that there are unanswered questions. That, just, that.

Must admit, in all the commentary I've seen on the tape/row, I haven't seen too much that has extrapolated a definitive conclusion of dv. Most of it, even from anti-Johnson posters or writers has been fairly measured on that specifically. Certainly not the wankfest you suggest. Much more has been written about him going into hiding, posting old photos and the rest.
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Exactly, there's no evidence of DV!

And, I am not claiming anything, just commenting on what has been reported, but ignored by some here.
 
Pickman's model said:
and the fact that they refused to disclose they were there to the guardian until the guardian was able to tell them which vehicles were there? doesn't that suggest something to you?
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No, that was covered pages ago, by a poster that knows how the outdated police computer system works, do try to keep up.

Here you go...

agricola said:
That bit is probably down to the computer system that the Met uses to despatch incidents (CAD), which will be 40 years old in 2024 (if it isn't replaced by then) and which uses codes to describe what sort of incident it is before any free text entries are made to elaborate further. There are two codes for domestics (non crime and crime) and a third for "concern for safety" - so if the incident went on as a concern for safety (which is what the statement says it went on as ), it would not turn up on a code search for domestics (which is the easiest way to find an incident on the system if you don't have the reference number but do have what time it happened and the area that the incident happened in).
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Pickman's model said:
and 'she's made no complaint'. yeh cos obvs lots of people would complain about boris johnson after his facilitating other people's revenge in the past and the probability that in a few days time he'd be able to order the repressive organs of the state to do something about you.
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Plus if all goes well she'll be the UK's equivalent of the First Lady.
 
cupid_stunt said:
Exactly, there's no evidence of DV!

And, I am not claiming anything, just commenting on what has been reported, but ignored by some here.
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Well, actually, you are. You are claiming this:

cupid_stunt said:
Of course, people that wank-off over the idea that it may prove something more, from actual real physical abuse to murder, will continue to wank over their fantasies until their dicks drop off.
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Wilf said:
Well, actually, you are. You are claiming this:
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You quoted one of my posts, and replied, I responded to your reply to that post. You now reply to my response, with a totally different post from me, out of context to my previous reply.

At the end of the day - some people, in the media & online, including here, are having a wankfest over this - it's been headline news for 5 fucking days now, despite nothing changing since the 'story' first broke, it's pointless, unless something else comes out.

FFS, this noise is killing proper news & debate, I am sick of it.
 
No say in it! Speaking as a Conservative and Unionist Party member of 40 years standing I...
 
You had to have marked yourself out as a cunt at least a month before the contest was announced, or something like that.
 
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