Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
Has Teresa May been out campaigning for Remain? Would that matter?
I still reckon David Davis. Long-term Eurosceptic, has kept a very low profile, not a member of the Government while all this was going on and not implicated in all the recent blue on blue action.
Might be seen as a bit old but the growing up on a council estate thing (according to his Wikipedia entry) would likely be viewed as a plus point.
He's a liability. I can't see it.
Is there any sign of a backlash (against Johnson and gove) in the tory party? If there's a steady stream of job loss announcements johnson might struggle.
Until they get a few London results along with Manchester or Birmingham, all the BBC punditry is bollocks. For the next 90 minutes they should just show pictures of dogs pushing prams.
Still not sure why the various gadges in the studio are thinking leave will win. Virtually all of remains' best areas are yet to come, inc. the big population areas.
Apart from Sunderland, no massive overperformances by leave - and there have been reports of very big remain leads in London and Birmingham. If Birmingham goes remain with 55-60% as mentioned it would wipe out leave's lead. No idea who will win, I'm just really saying the assumptions the BBC have used to measure individual results are very flaky.
Just seen Liverpool - big remain. Remain are going to win.
Curtis just said leave slight favourites. I really don't see it with the big city results to come.
I've always assumed the polls are overstating leave, for the usual/obvious reasons (leave as the vehicle for protest votes which might not become actual votes on the day; remain as the status quo position - allied with 'project fear' beginning to have some effect). Must admit I did expect remain to have had a clearer lead this week, with the impact of the murder - they've had the best of the polls, but it hasn't been unanimous. Same time, as they've been suggesting on the news, the bookies probably have a better sense of it than the pollsters. I'd expect something like - fuck knows - 55-45, or even wider. Enough for remain to have got away with it and enough to stop leave mounting any kind of campaign for a re-run in the next decade.
No idea how accurate it is but the political experts were saying that she isn't liked in the party.Darth May is the only one who hasn't publicly shit the bed in some way over the last 6 months
I've just seen her on the tellybox saying she might put herself forwardI do think the poll should have Nicky Morgan as a comedy option though.
Of course it wouldn't enter their heads/matter to them/alter their decision in any way...but doesn't Crabb come across like a particularly odious little shit of an estate agent?Theresa May is the steady option, but I think she's too disliked among MPs. Stephen Crabb I've heard mentioned a lot but don't know a lot about. They love picking leaders the rest of the country has never heard of in the Tory party, so maybe.
Just please not Johnson.
The home secretary is the favourite to replace the prime minister, according to a YouGov poll that shows her as the preferred successor among Conservative voters: 31 per cent back her, against 24 per cent for Mr Johnson.
In April Mr Johnson was on 36 per cent and Mrs May on 14 per cent. Mrs May is also narrowly ahead among the public, with 19 per cent against 18 per cent for the former London mayor. The latest result questions the assumption that Mr Johnson is the darling of party activists after his Brexit triumph in the EU referendum.
A blue collar ‘dream team’ of two working class Tory Cabinet ministers are planning to run to stop Boris Johnson becoming PM. Leadership hopeful Stephen Crabb was last night in talks with Sajid Javid to become his deputy on the ticket. The Work and Pensions Secretary and the Business Secretary are being pushed by younger Tory MPs elected in 2010 and 2015. The duo are being seen as representing a new generation of Tories with humble roots closer to the general public, in stark contrast to the “Bullingdon Club” era of Old Etonians, David Cameron and Mr Johnson. Mr Crabb, 43, grew up with a single mum on a housing estate in Pembrokeshire, West Wales. And Mr Javid, 46, is the son of a bus driver from Bristol.
Is there any sign of a backlash (against Johnson and gove) in the tory party? If there's a steady stream of job loss announcements johnson might struggle.