What stupid shit has Trump done today?

[maomao]

Right. How do you want yours winnings? This just popped up as an alert in my diary, 'get ten pounds from maomao'

Ten pounds to a children's cancer charity of your course.

 

[bimble]

done. thanks for making me feel nice about being a loser.

 

[two sheds]

Judge orders independent monitor to oversee Trump’s real estate empire

Move will restrict his company’s ability to freely make deals, sell assets and change its corporate structure

www.theguardian.com

oops

Eta:

Judge Arthur Engoron ordered the outside watchdog for the Trump Organization as he presides over a lawsuit in which the New York attorney general, Letitia James, alleges Trump and the company routinely misled banks and others about the value of prized assets, including golf courses and hotels bearing his name.

James’ office says the Trump Organization is continuing to engage in fraud and has taken steps to dodge potential penalties from the lawsuit, such as incorporating a new entity in Delaware named Trump Organization LLC almost identical to the original company’s name in September, just before the lawsuit was filed.

 

[ruffneck23]

If true, I like this a lot.

 

[gentlegreen]

If true, I like this a lot.

Clean-up on aisle three ...

 

[Dogsauce]

If true, I like this a lot.

He’ll find himself with less backers, as De Santis is seen as a winner and the assorted sycophants and weirdos will flock to his camp. Think he’s done.

 

[tim]

I think what's ultimately breathtaking about Trump is that if he hadn't got involved with the presidency, he'd have gone to his grave in a few years having had a very nice life doing nothing but scamming people on a monumental scale, with no real consequences.

Where's the fun in that?

Was that the palms a rustling?
Or the Federal Agents at the gate?
Or Donnie's classified papers being shredded crate by crate?
They won't forget old Donnie (Donnie).
And he drove the fastest golfcart in the West!

 

[Raheem]

He’ll find himself with less backers, as De Santis is seen as a winner and the assorted sycophants and weirdos will flock to his camp. Think he’s done.

I dunno. Remember, the Republican primaries decide, and it will take a lot more than this to wean them off.

 

[killer b]

The republican tops have been keen to move on from Trump for ages. They don't really get to decide though. If his support holds up in the wider electorate and he stays out of jail or whatever, it doesn't matter how hard they stan De Santis

 

[platinumsage]

Pretty sure Biden thinks he's the only person who can beat Trump again, but if Trump doesn't stand then Biden certainly won't.

 

[Ax^]

Dem Raising stars have done poorly in this election so who would replace him K Harris?

 

[Dogsauce]

Dem Raising stars have done poorly in this election so who would replace him K Harris?

Hilary, probably. They’re that tone deaf.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

The republican tops have been keen to move on from Trump for ages. They don't really get to decide though. If his support holds up in the wider electorate and he stays out of jail or whatever, it doesn't matter how hard they stan De Santis

This is their problem, though. His support holds up in Republican circles but his supporters do badly in elections that include everyone.

We'll see how the final results tot up in the mid-terms, but it looks likely the Senate will remain Dem, just, and the House of Reps will turn red, just. But with Trump's squad specifically doing badly. That's got to hurt his appeal in Republican circles. He's picking losers.

 

[Ax^]

and its making him look like a loser ..

that going to eat at his minds.. to run and possibly
or just stay scamming his base for the next 6 years

 

[killer b]

This is their problem, though. His support holds up in Republican circles but his supporters do badly in elections that include everyone.

I know - tbh I think this has always been the case. I reckon almost any of the other possible republican candidates in 2016 would have won more convincingly than Trump. The republican base love him though, and I don't know whether his picks turning out to be toxic to the general public will change that. Nothing else seems to have done.

 

[MickiQ]

Hilary, probably. They’re that tone deaf.

I dunno I suspect that the Dems will play safe and stick with the tried and trusted formula of a rich white guy. The idea of Kamala running is a cool one but considering the meltdown a black man in the WH gave some people, I'd imagine a black woman would cause even more of a ruckus. I don't think the US is ready for less discrimination at the top yet.

I imagine there must be some serious discussions going on amongst the Rupublican leadership at the moment. If Trump runs, I would imagine the nomination is a cinch only to go on and lose the election. They've created a monster they can't control.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I don't see any way Trump wins in 2024 if he runs. Sure he has hard-core supporters, but he has equally hard-core opposers, and he'll bring them all out to vote against him again.

Part of me is horrified by the prospect of him running, but another part would rather enjoy seeing him lose again. Would be dangerous for the US, mind. No good would come of it other than (bucket-loads of) schadenfreude.

I'm often wrong about these things, but my bet would be that Trump won't run in the end. Bit like Johnson didn't have his 100 backers despite the bluster, Trump will know that he won't win and won't want to lose again.

 

[Ax^]

similar i'd like to see the GOP give in an use him on their ticket to ensure they lost the next election


but trumps reaction to DeSantis is a bit of a give away

he could win for the Republicans as it stands atm

 

[frogwoman]

DeSantis is worse than Trump tho, he's a real die-hard religious fundamentalist whereas Trump is just an opportunist megalomaniac. I don't really think Trump believed or cared about the shit he was spouting, he once donated to Planned Parenthood iirc

 

[Ax^]

aye that the problem he is a true believer but he comes across as less unhinged as Trump
plus could reach out to non Caucasian voters in more of a way than trump
Plus he is a actually Veteran vs Mr Bone Spurs


he is far more Dangerous than trump

 

[frogwoman]

I think Trump wanted to try and retain power tho and was quite happy to line up behind people going Hang Mike Pence (who I think he has a lot of contempt for) and the like

 

[littlebabyjesus]

DeSantis is worse than Trump tho, he's a real die-hard religious fundamentalist whereas Trump is just an opportunist megalomaniac. I don't really think Trump believed or cared about the shit he was spouting, he once donated to Planned Parenthood iirc

Yep. All the prospective GOP candidates are despicable.

 

[frogwoman]

Yep. All the prospective GOP candidates are despicable.

DeSantis is definitely way worse. Who are the others?

 

[Jeff Robinson]

This could well mark the fall of the barbarian Trump clique and the rise of the barbarian DeSantis clique. I suspect the Republican members still love Trump, but the elites in the party will see his approved candidates flopping and think a more viable barbarian is needed

 

[Cloo]

He actually thinks this is a totally reasonable thing to suggest:

 

[littlebabyjesus]

DeSantis is definitely way worse. Who are the others?

This article does a run-down of the likely contenders. Likes of Ted Cruz and a few former Trump officials. All horrible. The GOP has definitely lurched to the right. Someone like Mitt Romney looks like a pinko compared to most of these.

Ten Republicans most likely to be their party’s next presidential candidate

 

[frogwoman]

This article does a run-down of the likely contenders. Likes of Ted Cruz and a few former Trump officials. All horrible. The GOP has definitely lurched to the right. Someone like Mitt Romney looks like a pinko compared to most of these.

Ten Republicans most likely to be their party’s next presidential candidate

Well hopefully Trump's Zodiac Killer and Lyin' Ted stuff from a few years ago will count against him

 

[littlebabyjesus]

He actually thinks this is a totally reasonable thing to suggest:

I hate being fair to Trump, but that was him attempting humour. It's easy to miss it as it doesn't come naturally.

 

[frogwoman]

I disagree, Trump can be quite funny. In an awful way obviously but I think that's why a lot of people liked him tbh

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

I dunno I suspect that the Dems will play safe and stick with the tried and trusted formula of a rich white guy. The idea of Kamala running is a cool one but considering the meltdown a black man in the WH gave some people, I'd imagine a black woman would cause even more of a ruckus. I don't think the US is ready for less discrimination at the top yet.

The thing about this though is that it seems a surprisingly large number of voters switched from Obama to Trump rather than falling into line with Clinton and then Biden. You can interpret that as the electorate being even more misogynist than racist of course but I'd suggest it's more that a charismatic candidate with a good story can swing enough votes. I don't see why in principle that couldn't be a black woman for all that there'd be plenty of fury - most of those people are furious about any sort of Democrat leader anyway.