What stupid shit has Trump done today?
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Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
I don't see any of this changing anyone's views on either side.
You're probably correct as Trump's base simple don't want to know or believe anything, even when they know it's true.
However, judges commonly take breaking court orders very seriously, especially when the defendant broke a previous order.
One hopes the judge gets rough
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zoetillman/roger-stone-michael-cohen-trump-wikileaks-emails
Trump doesn't like the wrong questions, so he simply bans the reporters from conferences.
Democracy at work.
White House limits press access at Trump-Kim meeting after reporters ask questions about Michael Cohen - CNN
Democracy at work.
White House limits press access at Trump-Kim meeting after reporters ask questions about Michael Cohen - CNN
Ex-lawyer or ex-wife ..... but without the payoff and gag order?
He's really ripping into Trump, alleging illegal activity and lies about it while Trump was in office. I'll bet the GOP are up all night trying to work out ways they can spin and/or ignore that lot.
He's really ripping into Trump, alleging illegal activity and lies about it while Trump was in office. I'll bet the GOP are up all night trying to work out ways they can spin and/or ignore that lot.
Agencies are forming a queue - it seems like some sort of unofficial race to bag Trump first.
I can live with that.
Washington Official Subpoenas Trump Inaugural Committee
I can live with that.
Washington Official Subpoenas Trump Inaugural Committee
elbows
Well-Known Member
They already employed their sole strategy in this regard today, just paint Cohen as the liar that he is, and ignore everything else.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Republicans and their synthetic supporters seem to be focusing on a book deal. Never mind the hack, the hush money, the charity funds...
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
They're trying to use the fact that he's a known liar and probably giving testimony in an effort to get a shorter sentence, to paint his testimony as invalid. Such testimony is used against regular people in criminal cases all the time. Most of the people in prison are likely there because of testimony given to receive shorter sentences or immunity. I don't know why I should give Trump and Co. a break. I don't see him throwing open the prison doors to let people out who were convicted on this type of evidence.
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agricola
a genuine importer of owls
I thought that was a ludicrous line of questioning to take, at least up until the guy who asked about boxes.
CRI
Registered Chooser
Hard to say whether seeing
The people who need to get the message are those who voted Trump in 2016, but have at least some buyers regret, and the people who are realising they've been shafted by the GOP Tax Cut and about everything else the GOP has done since then. Even more important, is getting the message to the people who didn't vote, and will need something to push them hard to do so in 2020.
I'm so old, I remember that the televised Watergate hearings did make a lot of people go from "meh" to "whoa" regarding Nixon. Reading things in the papers, even seeing it reported on the news, just didn't have the same impact as seeing someone answer questions in person, on camera, unfiltered. It also helps that the Republican congressmen/women are clowning around and not actually asking questions. Maybe this, and having other televised hearings, will make a difference where it counts.
Edit: The other thing is Trump can't stand stuff that makes him look bad, so he goes bananas, and is more likely to trip up even further - hopefully.
I'm sure there are Trump supporters who would shake his hand after he shot someone on Fifth Avenue - for he's like their Messiah. Nothing they hear or see will shake their faith so you just have to assume they'll vote Trump/GOP in 2020 regardless and write them off.
The people who need to get the message are those who voted Trump in 2016, but have at least some buyers regret, and the people who are realising they've been shafted by the GOP Tax Cut and about everything else the GOP has done since then. Even more important, is getting the message to the people who didn't vote, and will need something to push them hard to do so in 2020.
I'm so old, I remember that the televised Watergate hearings did make a lot of people go from "meh" to "whoa" regarding Nixon. Reading things in the papers, even seeing it reported on the news, just didn't have the same impact as seeing someone answer questions in person, on camera, unfiltered. It also helps that the Republican congressmen/women are clowning around and not actually asking questions. Maybe this, and having other televised hearings, will make a difference where it counts.
Edit: The other thing is Trump can't stand stuff that makes him look bad, so he goes bananas, and is more likely to trip up even further - hopefully.
So, Trump forced intel officials to grant top level clearance to his son in law, meaning that bent sod has access to every state secret he fancies looking at.
When the family from hell finally fall, how will they stop that lot passing state secrets to foreign powers?
Trump ordered officials to give Kushner security clearance despite concerns, report says - live
When the family from hell finally fall, how will they stop that lot passing state secrets to foreign powers?
Trump ordered officials to give Kushner security clearance despite concerns, report says - live
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
I reckon Mueller will be a damp squib, so much expectations put on it. Known cunts like Stone will do time for dirty tricks, but nothing earth-shaking. Trump will get out on plausible deniability, seems like the kind of guy who doesn’t write much down or send emails, just gets minions to do it and it’ll be those carrying the blame as a connection won’t be provable. Neither side will shut up about it forever more.
I reckon the whole Russian thing was just to divide and disrupt, not back a candidate for reasons of corruption, they didn’t need Trump’s cooperation to do this. Operatives in his team getting wind of what Russia was up to isn’t the same as commanding the operation.
I reckon the whole Russian thing was just to divide and disrupt, not back a candidate for reasons of corruption, they didn’t need Trump’s cooperation to do this. Operatives in his team getting wind of what Russia was up to isn’t the same as commanding the operation.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
Putins chief troll is probably in Siberia along with the troll that led to Brexit.
disrupting stuff for shits and giggles Russians fine with that. Discovering they have to deal with Trump and Brexit that's taking the joke to far Dimitrov
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"where am I going to get staff for my london bolthole and the property prices are nosediving"
disrupting stuff for shits and giggles Russians fine with that. Discovering they have to deal with Trump and Brexit that's taking the joke to far Dimitrov
."where am I going to get staff for my london bolthole and the property prices are nosediving"
Much as I think the wall/fence/pretty gates/slats idea is a bit stupid, they idea of building prototypes and knocking them down is a rare old bit of stupidity. They cost fat chunks of cash so, if they actually want to go ahead and build it, why didn't they build the things in the right place and just leave them there instead of destroying them and building again?
I thought Trump was supposed to be a capitalist - he's shit at that as well.
Trump's border wall prototypes have been demolished
I thought Trump was supposed to be a capitalist - he's shit at that as well.
Trump's border wall prototypes have been demolished
CRI
Registered Chooser
Ah, but am pretty sure he's been involved in illegal activities since 2016, and some of those come under state jurisdiction, not federal (so a successor couldn't pardon him.) We live in hope at least.
CRI
Registered Chooser
Strange thing though is that independent journalists were sounding the alarm about Kushner's position in the administration AGES AGO - that his only qualification seemed to be that he was married to the president's equally unqualified daughter, and the dangers of letting someone with his international connections and history of corruption anywhere near anything vaguely sensitive related to US security. But with alarming speed, the country and the world seemed to just brush this off like it was no shakes. Same journalists were also cynical about the idea that Kelly was somehow a "moderating influence" on Trump, saying he was just as crooked as the the rest, and he was.
But somehow, everyone's running about with their hair on fire about this "revelation" that was there in plain sight for at least 18 months. FFS.
November 2017 - Sarah Kendzior: Jared Kushner Has ‘Lived a Life Committing Crimes Consequence-Free’
July 2017 - Opinion | Jared Kushner’s Got Too Many Secrets to Keep Ours
May 2017 - House Democrats: Revoke Kushner’s security clearance
April 2017 - The tale of the dictator’s daughter and her prince
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
I'm not sure anyone who still supports Trump is going to change in their support for him. There's little point trying for that.
What might happen as a result of the campaign against him is that Trump decides that being President once is enough, and doesn't run again because he's already got the brand recognition and place in history that he wanted and what's the point in doing it a second time?
And then who comes after Trump? Possibly somebody equally bad but also possibly someone who isn't; there's no guarantee that the Trump supporters would go for someone who is like Trump but isn't him because that's not how personality cults work. They're not likely to go for someone like John McCain but they could go back to the good old days where Bush Jr was as bad as we thought Republican Presidents could get.
Wheeler tapping, and shunting coal as a social club for Trump's idiot mates (Old British people will get the bad joke)
I think there's little serious argument that fossil fuels are largely responsible for climate change, or a least a bloody big chunk of it, so, if you were a mindless moron, you'd put a coal advocate in charge of the environment.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zahrahirji/andrew-wheeler-epa-administrator-coal-lobbyist
I think there's little serious argument that fossil fuels are largely responsible for climate change, or a least a bloody big chunk of it, so, if you were a mindless moron, you'd put a coal advocate in charge of the environment.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/zahrahirji/andrew-wheeler-epa-administrator-coal-lobbyist
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Thank you for posting a video Bernard Manning. It helped remind me what a decent chap Donald is.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
On his Twitter feed Trump is bragging about how wonderful his Scottish golf club is and the role is played in furthering the relationship between the US and the UK. According to people who hate his guts this is a violation of emolument laws.
I hope some posters here, particularly Scottish ones, have the time and wit to respond to this vulgar spiv.
I hope some posters here, particularly Scottish ones, have the time and wit to respond to this vulgar spiv.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Mueller COULD be a damp squib and it's best not to get hopes up too much. But at least one Trump family indictment is not unlikely and that won't be no damp squib.
Elsewise, I guage he may be rather dry in his findings - a bit like that 2nd Iraq report, likened by one journo to a set of finely made knives laid out to use against Blair et. al.
Not that they were, but the US seems to have a more functioning opposition at the moment.
Someone on the excellent Majority Report noted that the progressive young new congress dems have been put on oversight to be effective attack dogs against Trump and not to have them turning too much on more right wing forces in their own party.
And finally for now, yes we can be realistically downbeat about what Mueller may produce but last week was largely not about Mueller at all.
The financials and SDNY stuff are a gargantuan threat in themselves. There's still much to hope for.
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