What stupid shit has Trump done today?

[killer b]

polling showed he wasn't going to get reelected so he suddenly got courageous.

Isn't this the Trump angle? Good of you to do his work for him.

While it's true up to a point, the reason he's facing problems getting re-elected in the first place is due to a likely primary challenge from the right - because of his record on being at odds with the current prevailing strains in the Republican Party, and being an internal critic of Trump.

 

[J Ed]

Isn't this the Trump angle? Good of you to do his work for him.

While it's true up to a point, the reason he's facing problems getting re-elected in the first place is due to a likely primary challenge from the right - because of his record on being at odds with the current prevailing strains in the Republican Party, and being an internal critic of Trump.

It's definitely the Trump/Bannon angle, but they are right, it is also the angle of the Democrats for the most part.

It's all just rhetoric, isn't it? He's against the rhetorical infusion of ethnonationalist rhetoric with far-right neoliberalism and imperialism, there are no substantive policy differences between Trump and Flake.

Tom Perez's statement on this was uncharacteristically good.

A vast improvement on the Clintonite approach of 'he isn't even really a Republican', which it turns out a lot of people including most Republican voters quite liked.

 

[killer b]

Oh, it’s certainly just rhetoric, and I don’t hold any admiration for the man’s politics. I just thought it particularly well crafted and targeted rhetoric, which I enjoy reading from any source.

 

[krtek a houby]

Ye gods; you know it's bad when a Republican speech has you nodding.

We must never meekly accept the daily sundering of our country—the personal attacks, the threats against principles, freedoms, and institution, the flagrant disregard for truth and decency, the reckless provocations, most often for the pettiest and most personal reasons, reasons having nothing whatsoever to do with the fortunes of the people that we have been elected to serve.

 

[Wilf]

This thread is like a fast running river. You want to dip your toe in, you almost dip your toe in, but you just know you'll get swept away.

"A Democrat, a Trumpist and a Marxist walk into a bar..."

 

[Yuwipi Woman]

Really, you can't understand that if you're not a prick you don't support a return to military dictatorship in Turkey? I don't think it's that hard of a point to grasp.

This and this

are revolting posts. A defence of military dictatorships, if you've got any intelligence and morality you recognise that. You recognise that people that support military dictatorships, even if they don't like Trump, are wankers that you shouldn't associate with. Or at least you do if you've actually got any politics deeper than a puddle. That's not being holier-than-thou or ideological pure it's just having some morality and some politics.

I know what to do with you....

 

[ViolentPanda]

They almost have to have army surplus stores. Where would the anarchists get their combats otherwise?

And anarchists HAVE to have access to combats, or how else can the state apparatus work out who the anarchists are?

 

[redsquirrel]

I know what to do with you....

Right. So after asking me to explain my point this is the best you can come up with. You going to address the point raised?

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Anti-Trumpism=good, lets just ignore any actual politics. And it leads to the nonsense we've seen on these threads - that people who criticise Obama for taking $600,000 from an investment bank are racist, that the FBI and CIA are allies, that Bush is an ally.

 

[krtek a houby]

Right. So after asking me to explain my point this is the best you can come up with. You going to address the point raised?

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Anti-Trumpism=good, lets just ignore any actual politics. And it leads to the nonsense we've seen on these threads - that people who criticise Obama for taking $600,000 from an investment bank are racist, that the FBI and CIA are allies, that Bush is an ally.

It's a mad world. Sometimes people and situations which one would normally avoid become maybe not palatable but certainly worh listening to. A temporary alliance, as it were.

I do think it's dashed snooty of you to dismiss people's issues with Trump as not being political. It's all about politics but Trump is so wrapped up in Trump that his ego positively demands puncturing.

Thread title - does what is says on the can.

 

[J Ed]

It's a mad world. Sometimes people and situations which one would normally avoid become maybe not palatable but certainly worh listening to. A temporary alliance, as it were.

I do think it's dashed snooty of you to dismiss people's issues with Trump as not being political. It's all about politics but Trump is so wrapped up in Trump that his ego positively demands puncturing.

Thread title - does what is says on the can.

It isn't a temporary alliance, it's the echo of a concerted top down effort deliberate attempt to foreclose on any opposition to Trump which is to the left of Hillary Clinton. Something which, if left unchecked, will plunge the world into irreversible climate change and war just as surely as it would under Trump albeit (perhaps) with slightly less acceleration.

 

[krtek a houby]

It isn't a temporary alliance, it's the echo of a concerted top down effort deliberate attempt to foreclose on any opposition to Trump which is to the left of Hillary Clinton. Something which, if left unchecked, will plunge the world into irreversible climate change and war just as surely as it would under Trump albeit (perhaps) with slightly less acceleration.

I think whoever happens to be the incumbent should have constant scrutiny. As it's Trump this time round, the focus is understandably on him. If it had been Clinton, I imagine it would have been the same. Thing about Trump is there's not enough facepalms to go round at his ineptitude for the gig. My prediction is that he will burn out before his first term is over and then we get the insidious Pence...

 

[J Ed]

...and this is where the Trump as a uniquely malevolent actor ideology gets you...

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/39agyx9fl6/econTabReport.pdf

 

[killer b]

Not sure if that's down to Trump tbh - he's shown a steady climb in the polls since leaving office (apart from 2015, dunno what happened there).

 

[Yossarian]

Most presidents see their approval ratings rise after they leave office, according to Gallup - that includes Bill Clinton, though the data is from 2013 so his reported links to Hillary Clinton may have hit his ratings in later years.

History Usually Kinder to Ex-Presidents

 

[J Ed]

Speaking of ex-presidents, some interesting stuff in this interview with Carter earlier this week..

Opinion | Jimmy Carter Lusts for a Trump Posting

Did the Russians purloin the election from Hillary?

“Rosie and I have a difference of opinion on that,” he said.

She looked over archly. “They obviously did,” she said.

He said: “I don’t think there’s any evidence that what the Russians did changed enough votes, or any votes.”

Rosalynn pressed, “The drip-drip-drip about Hillary.”

Carter noted that in the primary, “We voted for Sanders.

 

[J Ed]

Not sure if that's down to Trump tbh - he's shown a steady climb in the polls since leaving office (apart from 2015, dunno what happened there).

I don't think it is down to Trump, I think that it's at least partly down to a campaign of normalising abhorrent politics as an electoral strategy which was directly pursued by the Democrats both during the general election and prior to that with the Blue Dog Democrat strategy. Neither worked of course.

Chuck Schumer: Democrats Will Lose Blue-Collar Whites But Gain in the Suburbs

“For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin."

It also has a lot to do with the politics as a cast of celebs perspective and the emphasis on decorum over actual policy or real world results of that policy.

 

[TomUS]

Speaking of ex-presidents, some interesting stuff in this interview with Carter earlier this week..

Opinion | Jimmy Carter Lusts for a Trump Posting

Jimmy might be able to help with NK.

 

[Tankus]

And nappy changing at the daycare centre

 

[CRI]

This is deeply worrying.

FCC to loosen TV, newspaper ownership rules

The FCC in 1975 banned cross-ownership of a newspaper and broadcast station in the same market, unless it granted a waiver, to ensure a diversity of opinions. The rule was made before the explosion of internet and cable news and Republican President Donald Trump and Pai have vowed to reduce government regulation.

“We must stop the federal government from intervening in the news business,” Pai told a congressional panel, noting that many newspapers have closed and many radio and TV stations are struggling. Pai moved earlier this year to make it easier for some companies to own a larger number of local stations.

Because this:

Sinclair Broadcast Group: The Greatest Threat To Our Democracy Since Fox News

Sinclair Broadcast Group, founded in 1971 by Julian Sinclair Smith, is the largest owner of television stations in the entire country. The Maryland-based media company controls 173 local stations in nearly 80 markets, which means it reaches just under 40 percent of the population — and is continuing to increase its range. Just today, they closed on an acquisition of Bonten Media Group, adding fourteen more stations in eight markets.

This number has the possibility to grow to approximately 72% in the near future, as the group has proposed plans to acquire Tribune Media. It’s a move that could alter the landscape of television news in an unprecedented fashion, creating a monopoly the likes of which the industry hasn’t previously seen.

Many rely on their local news for perceived unbiased information. They’ve probably watched the same anchors for years. I grew up watching KTLA 5’s morning news. Who would bother to fact check the news they’ve known and trusted for decades?

During the 2016 election cycle, Donald Trump’s campaign made a deal with Sinclair to secure more positive and “straighter” coverage, according to Trump’s Senior Advisor and son-in-law Jared Kushner. Sinclair was offered extended access to the campaign, in exchange for broadcasting Trump interviews without commentary.

 

[krtek a houby]

Jimmy might be able to help with NK.

He was quite in favour of pulling out troops all throughout his Presidency. But his meetings during the Clinton era were frowned on, iirc.

 

[CRI]

Something about this stinks to high heaven.

Democrats call for investigation into Puerto Rico utility deal



Tiny Montana Company With Connection to Ryan Zinke Wins $300 Million Puerto Rico Recovery Contract





Why Whitefish Energy's Federal Contract To Restore Puerto Rico's Electricity Is Raising Eyebrows

Hmmmmm

Bastards!

 

[krtek a houby]

The memory man.

Trump Brags About Having 'One Of The Great Memories Of All Time'

 

[sojourner]

I started reading this thread ages ago and then came back to it so can't remember who coined the phrase 'huffing orange twat', but whoever it was, I'm just letting you know that I'm pinching it for a series of haiku, so ta

 

[TomUS]

Not sure if that's down to Trump tbh - he's shown a steady climb in the polls since leaving office (apart from 2015, dunno what happened there).

He did nothing but cute paintings and the public forgot what a horrible pres he was. And now compared to Trump he doesn't seem so bad.

 

[CRI]

He did nothing but cute paintings and the public forgot what a horrible pres he was. And now compared to Trump he doesn't seem so bad.

People forget how much Jimmy Carter was loathed, particularly by the emerging right in America. He quietly went back to Georgia and got on with his life. To be fair, he did lots of stuff to benefit the community that's really hard to slate, even if you hated him. But over time, more people looked back on his presidency with fonder memories than they had just after.

Frankly, the situation the US is in now can't really be compared to any other in its history, so how the Administration and Congress in particular stack up compared to previous incarnations is pretty pointless.

 

[CRI]

10-Year-Old Immigrant Is Detained After Agents Stop Her on Way to Surgery

Shit like this is still happening.

 

[Nylock]

 

[CRI]

Judge Removes Fatal Shooting of Black Man From Ex-Tulsa Officer’s Record

Well and there's this crap. The officer acquitted for shooting an unarmed black man with his arms in the air will have all records of involvement in the incident expunged.

But the kneeling is just about disrespecting the flag.

 

[D'wards]

After watching the excellent Ken Burns The Vietnam War, i revisited Trump's comments on John McCain. McCain is featured in the documentary cos he is son of a prominent US military man, so came in for special mistreatment when he was a POW in Vietnam, including torture.

Trump on McCain - “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured? I like people who weren’t captured.”

What a cunt

 

[binka]

Well this made me laugh I hope it's real