What stupid shit has Trump done today?

[J Ed]

That's interesting.

It is odd how the two of you, despite being told by myself and others on this thread that nobody is really defeniding the democrats, how you can't stop mentioning them at every given opportunity.

Which is fine, btw. But it is a thread about Trump. Why not expand on your democrat stuff on a thread about them?

People on here called people criticising Obama or Clinton racist and sexist. I would say that is 'defending the democrats'.

 

[NoXion]

Not to mention the red-baiting. "White socialism", FFS.

 

[krtek a houby]

People on here called people criticising Obama or Clinton racist and sexist. I would say that is 'defending the democrats'.

Well,I'm all for criticising the US politicians, I don't believe I've said otherwise. Just find it a bit yesterday's news. Whereas Trump and co. are very much in the here and now.

 

[maomao]

Well,I'm all for criticising the US politicians, I don't believe I've said otherwise. Just find it a bit yesterday's news. Whereas Trump and co. are very much in the here and now.

So CRI 's repeated ignorant smears should go uncommented on?

 

[krtek a houby]

So CRI 's repeated ignorant smears should go uncommented on?

If someone feels strongly about it, of course not.

 

[redsquirrel]

I think your bellowing and piss steaming is a bit boring. And you have zero idea of who or what I am and what I believe in.

I have a very good idea of your politics from your posts on here over the last decade+. You're a liberal that's why you defend Clinton and Obama, that's why you're willing to defend an anti-unionist, that's where your contentless anti-Trumpism (and before that anti-Bushism) comes from. Your political aims are at odds with mine, the methods you wish to use to achieve your aims are at odds with mine. And so yes, you are my enemy.

BTW I notice you didn't actually answer the questions. Do you support anti-unionism? Do you support military coups? TomUS does to both, so which side are you on?

 

[krtek a houby]

I have a very good idea of your politics from your posts on here over the last decade+. You're a liberal that's why you defend Clinton and Obama, that's why you're willing to defend an anti-unionist, and so yes you are my enemy. Your political aims are at odds with mine, the methods you wish to use to achieve your aims are at odds with mine.

BTW I notice you didn't actually answer the questions. Do you support anti-unionism? Do you support military coups? TomUS does to both, so which side are you on?

Best update your spreadsheet, in that case.

If you paid any attention, you'd know that I was a union member who would not cross the picket. Or support military coups.

TomUS posts interesting stuff. As does CRI. Whilst I may not agree with their entire output; they are not screaming at everyone and tearing their hair out because other posters don't see eye to eye with them.

I have no "methods" or "aims" apart from wishing harmony and an end to injustice.

When you get older and get to experience the contradictions of life, you might be a bit more willing to take on board the fact that just because people post different stuff to you don't mean they are scum.

 

[redsquirrel]

I have no "methods" or "aims" apart from wishing harmony and an end to injustice.

Riight and you claim you're not a liberal. You don't have a fucking clue.

When you get older and get to experience the contradictions of life, you might be a bit more willing to take on board the fact that just because people post different stuff to you don't mean they are scum.

It's not to do with posting different stuff. It's to do with the fact that supporting attempted military coups is fucking disgusting to anyone with even an ounce of moral integrity. It's to do with the fact that smearing people as racists and promoting the moronic horseshoe theory, is an attack on socialist comrades.

"Oh I disagree with you about that murderous coup but we're really all on the same side". Give me a fucking break, get a backbone, get some morals. If you can't, or rather won't, condemn that then you're as much a louse as TomUS.

 

[krtek a houby]

Meanwhile, back in Trumpland

Republican senator: Trump speaks 'untruths'

Bob Corker with an early Trump political obit

"I think the debasement of our nation is what he'll be remembered most for," he said.

(Note: other Presidential debasements are available)

 

[krtek a houby]

Riight and you claim you're not a liberal. You don't have a fucking clue.

It's not to do with posting different stuff. It's to do with the fact that supporting attempted military coups is fucking disgusting to anyone with even an ounce of moral integrity. It's to do with the fact that smearing people as racists and promoting the moronic horseshoe theory, thus attacking socialists.

"Oh I disagree with you about that murderous crew but we're really all on the same side". Give me a fucking break, get a backbone.

What military coup am I supporting again? Was it last Tuesday? Was a bit snowed under that day,hence my missing it.

 

[redsquirrel]

What military coup am I supporting again? Was it last Tuesday? Was a bit snowed under that day,hence my missing it.

For god's sake for once in your life actually read people's posts. TomUS supported the attempted military coup in Turkey, in fact he cheered it on. You think that's ok? That that isn't vile? That's why I call him scum.

 

[krtek a houby]

For god's sake for once in your life actually read people's posts. TomUS supported the attempted military coup in Turkey, in fact he cheered it on. You think that's ok? That that isn't vile? That's why I call him scum.

Er, why do you think I read every single post for posters I happen to occasionally "like" or agree with? You've tried this before.

I am completely against Erogan and his dictatorship in the making. Stop presuming all manner of stuff just because you don't have the facts at hand.

 

[redsquirrel]

Er, why do you think I read every single post for posters I happen to occasionally "like" or agree with? You've tried this before.

I am completely against Erogan and his dictatorship in the making. Stop presuming all manner of stuff just because you don't have the facts at hand.

I'm not presuming anything, I'm asking you a question (well two). That's why there's question marks at the end of the sentence rather than full stops. Now how about you answer those questions.

 

[Yossarian]

I'm not presuming anything, I'm asking you a question (well two). That's why there's question marks at the end of the sentence rather than full stops. Now how about you answer those questions.

This kind of routine would work better if you had somebody playing good cop.

 

[krtek a houby]

I'm not presuming anything, I'm asking you a question (well two). That's why there's question marks at the end of the sentence rather than full stops. Now how about you answer those questions.

What questions? You seem very upset that I don't do cross beef anymore.It's quite a relief,really. You should try it, my friend.

 

[redsquirrel]

What questions? You seem very upset that I don't do cross beef anymore.It's quite a relief,really. You should try it, my friend.

The one's in the post you quoted (please, please read posts properly before responding to them).

TomUS supported the attempted military coup in Turkey, in fact he cheered it on. You think that's ok? That that isn't vile?.

 

[krtek a houby]

The one's in the post you quoted (please, please read posts properly before responding to them).

Er, I said I don't always agree with posters output. I said I don't support coups and I don't support Erdogan's blossoming dictatorship.

On a thread concerned with Trump,I'm not quite certain what more you need from me.

 

[redsquirrel]

Er, I said I don't always agree with posters output. I said I don't support coups and I don't support Erdogan's blossoming dictatorship.

That doesn't actually answer the question(s). Do you think it is morally fine to cheer on a military coup? Because that's what TomUS did. In my book, and I'd argue the book of anyone who isn't a prick, that's utterly disgusting. This

Yes. This is a tradition in Turkey. When the Islamic fundamentalists go too far, the military stops them. Ataturk's tradition should be kept.

is a truely revolting post. A justification for military dictatorships if you don't like the particular government. If you don't get that then you're as bad as him.

And of course it's the same type of logic that the US has used for decades in it's support for dictatorial regimes - that government spending money of the health service or threatening to nationalise that industry - well that's just dangerous! It's in the best interests of everybody to have strongman X take over.

 

[krtek a houby]

That doesn't actually answer the question(s). Do you think it is morally fine to cheer on a military coup? Because that's what TomUS did. In my book, and I'd argue the book of anyone who isn't a prick, that's utterly disgusting. This

is a truely revolting post. A justification for military dictatorships if you don't like the particular government. If you don't get that then you're as bad as him.

And of course it's the same type of logic that the US has used for decades in it's support for dictatorial regimes - that government spending money of the health service or threatening to nationalise that industry - well that's just dangerous! It's in the best interests of everybody to have strongman X take over.

Sigh.

Once again; I don't support Erdogan. Why do you want me to single out TomUS - that's his view. Why not ask/harass him, instead?

I have no love for US foreign policy or most of its domestic shenanigans. Which is why I'm posting on a Trump thread. One that hasn't been binned yet,due to bun fights and cross beef.

 

[chandlerp]

well this, right here, is fascinating.

 

[krtek a houby]

well this, right here, is fascinating.

sorry 'bout that

 

[redsquirrel]

Once again; I don't support Erdogan.

This just shows that you're not reading a fucking thing. The coup was against Erdogan FFS.

Why do you want me to single out TomUS - that's his view. Why not ask/harass him, instead?

You're still avoiding the questions. You complained about me calling him a fuck. I'm trying to explain to you why I have that opinion of him. What do you think is a fair name for someone who wants to see a military dictatorship in Turkey? And has posted a shit load of anti-union stuff, who defends/supports neo-liberals like Clinton? Who attacks socialists?

I think it speaks volumes about you and your politics that you can't/won't condemn the shit TomUS spouted. EDIT: Or the crap CRI comes out with for that matter.

 

[krtek a houby]

This just shows that you're not reading a fucking thing. The coup was against Erdogan FFS.


You're still avoiding the questions. You complained about me calling him a fuck. I'm trying to explain to you why I have that opinion of him. What do you think is a fair name for someone who wants to see a military dictatorship in Turkey? And has posted a shit load of anti-union stuff, who defends/supports neo-liberals like Clinton?

Sigh.

Erdogan is a dictator. This coup is justified. As for military coups; am not in favor of them.

You hate Tom and liberals. Good for you. Apart from fascists and racist and other extremists (and trolls) I tend to listen to the political spectrum on urban.

May not agree with them but it's important to see where others are coming from.

I was a union member; so I don't agree with those who denigrate them. Doesn't mean I can't engage or gosh forbid, agree on some posts.

 

[redsquirrel]

Erdogan is a dictator. This coup is justified. As for military coups; am not in favor of them.

What the fuck are you talking about? This was a military coup. You've managed to contradict yourself in the space of 14 words.

And if you think this attempted coup was justified then you're an even bigger prick than I thought. Scratch a liberal.

 

[krtek a houby]

What the fuck are you talking about? This was a military coup. You've managed to contradict yourself in the space of 14 words.

And if you think this attempted coup was justified then you're an even bigger prick than I thought. Scratch a liberal.

Sigh.

The attempted coup against Erdogan was justifed. As for military coups which oppress the people, I am not in favor of.

I'd add to that but I have to grab beer and popcorn just now.

Any Trump news while I'm raiding the larder?

 

[redsquirrel]

The attempted coup against Erdogan was justifed. As for military coups which oppress the people, I am not in favor of.

Fucking hell. And you think you're a socialist. I thought you were an idiot but this is just amazing - coups are a-ok if they are against people I don't like. Christ.

Still it's an excellent illustration of the murderous, anti-democratic nature of liberalism.

 

[krtek a houby]

Fucking hell. And you think you're a socialist. I thought you were an idiot but this is just amazing. Still it's an excellent illustration of the murderous, anti-democratic nature of liberalism.

All well and good but anything to say about the actual topic, mind?

 

[redsquirrel]

That the above shit shows exactly why you, every bit as much as Trump, are the enemy of anyone with any sort of commitment to socialism or democracy. That it shows why anti-Trumpism is not just a waste of time but actually reactionary.

 

[krtek a houby]

That the above shit shows exactly why you, every bit as much as Trump, are the enemy of anyone with any sort of commitment to socialism or democracy. That it shows why anti-Trumpism is not just a waste of time but actually reactionary.

Yes; I am Trump. I am the enemy.

At last; the truth is out there.

 

[butchersapron]

Sigh.

Erdogan is a dictator. This coup is justified. As for military coups; am not in favor of them.

Sigh.

The attempted coup against Erdogan was justifed. As for military coups which oppress the people, I am not in favor of.

Just for the record.