what no thread about occupy oakland

[Captain Hurrah]

 

[frogwoman]

just had this message from a fb friend:

[27/10/2011 06:57:14] So they are saying a general strike has been called for by the General Committee at #OccupyOakland for Wednesday, November 2. Now it will be up to the other General Committees (and especially to New York) to approve. Would be the first General Strike in the U.S. since 1946, I think. May even go world-wide, I guess, if enough people get on board... big doin's...

 

[Barking_Mad]

Video shows at least one explosive projectile thrown by a police officer at protesters as they go to help the clearly injured Olsen who is lying prone on the ground bleeding.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

I feel very sorry to share this, but we have some more troubling news on Scott's medical condition now. He appears to have sustained damage to the speech center of his brain. There is good news too though: he is communicating through writing and he showed a big smile to his parents as they arrived at his hospital bed. Police believe he will eventually have his speech back. Please keep up this incredible outpouring of solidarity, share this page with your friends, denounce police brutality and express your support for Scott. Thank you for following. We are all Scott Olsen

 

[butchersapron]

just had this message from a fb friend:

[27/10/2011 06:57:14] So they are saying a general strike has been called for by the General Committee at #OccupyOakland for Wednesday, November 2. Now it will be up to the other General Committees (and especially to New York) to approve. Would be the first General Strike in the U.S. since 1946, I think. May even go world-wide, I guess, if enough people get on board... big doin's...

You can't just declare a general strike! That's like the P&P forum calling a general strike then asking the general forum to agree.

 

[frogwoman]

Lol, yeah. I know.

 

[butchersapron]

There is some unofficial union support for the occupy oakland thing - some ILWU members circulating appeals etc, but there's also been union support for the mayor who orderd the cops in (he's their boy, they funded him). The San Francisco Labor Council have declared the Occupy San Francisco and Occupy Wall Street "sanctioned union strike lines" and offering some form of participation and protection. But a self-selected GC declaring a general strike?

 

[frogwoman]

I know, i was a bit surprised when he told me. Surely the unions and members etc have to agree? Do all of them support it anyway?

 

[frogwoman]

he just sent me this:

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  Also here is the general strike in Oakland Tumblr ... I don't know how widespread it is going to be elsewhere, but this Tumblr has specific information on what they plan to do there: http://oaklandstrike.tumblr.com/

 

[xes]

Young Navy lad stands holding the constitution at the police.

 

[dilute micro]

The navy dude isn't in tear gas or he'd be trying to get out of it.

Can't help but notice he doesn't have any rank insignia and I couldn't tell if he had a unit identification. There is something white looking on his far shoulder where his command designation should be. Why would he remove his rank but keep the most important thing on his uniform that would piss off the navy....given he's got an ear ring? His uniform fits like it should though so he very well could be legit.

nevermind....I just looked at it again and he is wearing his rank.

 

[Luther Blissett]

shame on you

I wrote to Mayor Jean Quan, said I thought that shit only happened in Iran
Said don't resign, make those bucks stop with you.
Oakland Police Department have a long history of brutal suppression
of Non-Violent Direct Activism and cited the March 2003 Port of Oakland Strike
where the same happened to protestors and dock workers, but it didn't make world news back then, when they were shot with:
- bean-bag rounds,
- wooden dowels,
- rubber bullets and
- tear-gas.

Wrote about that back in 2003. Good job I've got a long memory.

 

[ddraig]

There is some unofficial union support for the occupy oakland thing - some ILWU members circulating appeals etc, but there's also been union support for the mayor who orderd the cops in (he's their boy, they funded him). The San Francisco Labor Council have declared the Occupy San Francisco and Occupy Wall Street "sanctioned union strike lines" and offering some form of participation and protection. But a self-selected GC declaring a general strike?

her btw

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Occupy Oakland:

BREAKING NEWS: #SEIU Local 1021, the biggest union in Oakland, just joined Wednesdays #GeneralStrike They're callin workers into the street!

 

[AKA pseudonym]

found this originally posted on this site:

markcrispinmiller.com
News From Underground is a daily e-news service run by Mark Crispin Miller, a Professor of Culture and Communication at NYU. It is based on his belief that academics, like reporters, have a civic obligation to help keep the people well-informed, so that American democracy might finally work

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[AKA pseudonym]

I like the message they are 'promoting'...

 

[AKA pseudonym]

General Strike Press Conference to announce more details of Nov 2 plans: 4pm Telegraph & Broadway, site of 1946 Oakland General Strike

11pm our time (GMT)

Entire school (OSA) is closed on Wed due to #OaklandGeneralStrike!

GENERAL STRIKE --- OAKLAND In addition to staging a walkout of businesses and schools, the protest intends to shut down the Port of Oakland by forming a picket line before the 7 p.m. night shift.

In the city, Occupy San Francisco has also pledged support, with some members planning to meet at Justin Herman Plaza before taking BART to meet up with protesters in Oakland. There is, of course, the possibility that SFPD or BART officials could shutdown San Francisco BART stations during evening commute hours on Wednesday in order to block a mass movement across the Bay

Unions Stand with Occupy Movement in Oakland and Nationwide!!

The Alameda Labor Council and California Labor Federation are standing in solidarity with Occupy Oakland’s Nov. 2 Day of Action. In a message to activists, Council Executive Secretary-Treasurer Josie Camacho says working families are, “inspired by the spirit of the fight against Wall Street.”

This Day of Action will be a public demonstration of support for the right to peaceably assembly without interference, and against the growing wealth and income inequality created by Wall Street and the actions of the richest 1 percent

eta: news coming in a flurry at the mo... all looking mighty positive....

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[dennisr]

"eta: news coming in a flurry at the mo... all looking mighty positive...."

Absolutely - when i first saw this call I was not too impressed by a call from what seemed to be 'outside'. I honesty hope I have misjudged and that this is a spark (well, I guess the vicious attack on the vet was the initial point of potential no return i guess)

 

[gavman]

I don't get it. Are we outraged at the forces of the state doing their job or pretending to be outraged at the forces of the state doing their job? Maybe the people reactions could be talked about?

go on then

 

[dennisr]

Looks like its not true that SEIU local 1021 of Oakland will be actually officially going on strike in defiance of their contract agreements which include no strike clauses while contract is in effect. What will actually take place - while still immensely significant - is that they're pushing for workers to still take part by taking time off, etc..http://seiu1021.org/story/november-2-join-oakland’s-peaceful-day-action

 

[Miss Caphat]

Looks like its not true that SEIU local 1021 of Oakland will be actually officially going on strike in defiance of their contract agreements which include no strike clauses while contract is in effect. What will actually take place - while still immensely significant - is that they're pushing for workers to still take part by taking time off, etc..http://seiu1021.org/story/november-2-join-oakland’s-peaceful-day-action

I'm confused by this post. This is just one union. Aren't there others who are striking?
Also, there is still going to be the general strike.

 

[butchersapron]

No unions are striking at all (legal and contractual reasons). Some unions are organising various ways for their members to be able to take the day off without getting in hot water (using comp time etc).Other union members are simply going to not come in - either just refusing to or calling in sick. The latter option has been quite widespread in Oakland for the last few years apparently in relation to dock protests.

 

[Miss Caphat]

ok, thanks for clearing that up.
(though now I'm wondering about those legal and contractual reasons are)

 

[dennisr]

ok, thanks for clearing that up.
(though now I'm wondering about those legal and contractual reasons are)

The article linked too explains a bit - the unions, and therefore their members, would be 'violating agreed contracts' which would put hem in a difficult position. The unions in the US have even worse anti-union legislation to face than here in the UK. They would actually be officially going on strike in defiance of their contract agreements which include no strike clauses while the previously agreed contract is in effect.

The reason I mentioned primarily the SEIU local is that it is by far the most important Oakland union local (branch) - in terms of size and contracts with Oakland employers

 

[Miss Caphat]

ok, thank you too.

 

[newharper]

The article linked too explains a bit - the unions, and therefore their members, would be 'violating agreed contracts' which would put hem in a difficult position. The unions in the US have even worse anti-union legislation to face than here in the UK. They would actually be officially going on strike in defiance of their contract agreements which include no strike clauses while the previously agreed contract is in effect.

The reason I mentioned primarily the SEIU local is that it is by far the most important Oakland union local (branch) - in terms of size and contracts with Oakland employers

Thanks for that.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

So its one of the big days today....

"Occupy Oakland" strike gains big labor support (CBS)

OAKLAND, Calif. - A widely anticipated strike Wednesday by anti-Wall Street demonstrators in Oakland is expected to get a big boost from organized labor and established advocacy groups whose grievances range from school closures and waning union benefits to home foreclosures and cuts to libraries and services for the disabled.

The unions representing Oakland's public school teachers, community college instructors, city government workers and University of California, Berkeley teaching assistants have endorsed the broad-based call to action that is expected to include marches, pickets outside banks and an attempt to shut down the Port of Oakland in the evening.

However, the city's police union in an open letter Tuesday slammed Mayor Jean Quan for her "flip-flop" stance on the city's Occupy Wall Street protests, questioning her motives and why the city plans to beef up its police presence at strike-related events while giving other city workers leeway to participate.

"Is it the city's intention to have city employees on both sides of a skirmish line?" the letter said.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

Occupy Oakland LIVE STREAM up at http://www.livestream.com/occupyoakland
Crowds flocking in, protesters chanting "Strike, Occupy, Shut them down, Oakland is the people's town" http://twitpic.com/79vt6o

 

[frogwoman]

just got this from a cde in the us:

interesting news Oakland port, the 5th largest post in the us, is shuy down

 

[AKA pseudonym]

just got this from a cde in the us:

interesting news Oakland port, the 5th largest post in the us, is shuy down

sweet.. its early! The plan was 7p.m.....
gonna be a mighty interesting day there, lets hope other cities take inspiration