Weasel Straw strikes again (Pakistani men in Britain see white girls as "easy meat")

[YouSir]

Seems to be a common trait in cities all over Europe. Bulwark of mainstream belief? If you follow the example of the prophet to the letter then I guess it could be considered so. As is the subjugation of women in general.

That's not what pk has said. But I think you know that.

Actually it is pretty much what he said.

 

[Proper Tidy]

Anyway, we've established yet again that pk is a vile cunt

 

[belboid]

Seems to be a common trait in cities all over Europe. Bulwark of mainstream belief? If you follow the example of the prophet to the letter then I guess it could be considered so. As is the subjugation of women in general.

'Common trait'??? Now a grand total of four examples equals a 'common trait'.

As you have smoked weed and snorted coke on at least four occasions (as you've mentined on thisa thread), should we not just dismiss your nonce sense as the workings of an paranoid cokehead fuckwit? If it works for the,m, you really should be consistent and say its true of you too.

 

[pk]

The thread is not evidence. I expect an expert like yourself to have such evidence to hand. It should be easy for you to provide the evidence for your assertion that: "Specific grooming of children for gang rape is overwhelmingly muslim". So let's see it

Take it up with Jack Straw, or former Detective Superintendent Mick Gradwell, who was East Lancashire’s top detective when he retired from the force last year, or Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Muslim Ramadhan Foundation, or feminist Muslim journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Ann Cryer, former Labour MP for Keighley.

I've posted enough witness testimony, links, transcripts and the like for now.

Lets see you and others wriggle and squirm some more, anything to avoid the actual issue at hand...

 

[pk]

Anyway, we've established yet again that pk is a vile cunt

Shoot the messenger, aye.

 

[Proper Tidy]

If I had a gun I fucking would

 

[belboid]

Shoot the messenger, aye.

No, we're laughing at the messenger (for the BNP)

 

[pk]

'Common trait'??? Now a grand total of four examples equals a 'common trait'.

Far more than four. Read the thread.

As you have smoked weed and snorted coke on at least four occasions (as you've mentined on thisa thread), should we not just dismiss your nonce sense as the workings of an paranoid cokehead fuckwit? If it works for the,m, you really should be consistent and say its true of you too.

By the sound of your desperation to avoid the issue, maybe you were one of the cunts noncing these kids... oh! Ad Hom attacks! Naughty!

 

[Proper Tidy]

feminist Muslim

By your logic, how is this possible?

 

[pk]

No, we're laughing at the messenger (for the BNP)

Go fuck yourself. And you have the nerve to put "hang liberals" as your tagline. You utter joke.

 

[pk]

If I had a gun I fucking would

Course you would.

 

[belboid]

Far more than four. Read the thread.

You are contradicting yourself again. One minute you refer to a specific crime (carried out four times), then you say it is every crime of that ilk. unless it is carried out by non-muslims, in which case it is only those earlier specific crimes which count. You rule evidence in and out solely on the basis of whether it supports your (racist) argument. That is an old, chrished method, normally used by your best chummy Jazzzzzzzzz.

Are you really so wilfully blind you dont see the hypocrisy?

By the sound of your desperation to avoid the issue, maybe you were one of the cunts noncing these kids... oh! Ad Hom attacks! Naughty!

aah, such charm. You brought up your drug use, so tough shit if anyopne comments on it in the same thread. And i am just trying to get you to be consistent. But you can't be, so you wriggle, squirm and lie to avoid accepting that you are contradicting yourself.

 

[belboid]

Go fuck yourself. And you have the nerve to put "hang liberals" as your tagline. You utter joke.

Do you want me to add 'and pathetic racist apologists', just for you?

 

[Proper Tidy]

Anyway, we've established yet again that pk is a vile cunt

.

 

[IMR]

. . . and considerably, 'Western' in activity. Fast cars, drugs, sex, gangs...

Sex is Western?

 

[Spion]

Take it up with Jack Straw, or former Detective Superintendent Mick Gradwell, who was East Lancashire’s top detective when he retired from the force last year, or Mohammed Shafiq, director of the Muslim Ramadhan Foundation, or feminist Muslim journalist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown, Ann Cryer, former Labour MP for Keighley.

I've posted enough witness testimony, links, transcripts and the like for now.

Lets see you and others wriggle and squirm some more, anything to avoid the actual issue at hand...

Evidence of specific cases is only evidence of specific cases. It does not prove that "Specific grooming of children for gang rape is overwhelmingly muslim". You need stats drawn from all such cases and the perps/victims to prove what you assert. And you clearly don't have that evidence.

 

[pk]

Evidence of specific cases is only evidence of specific cases. It does not prove that "Specific grooming of children for gang rape is overwhelmingly muslim". You need stats drawn from all such cases and the perps/victims to prove what you assert. And you clearly don't have that evidence.

I'm trying to bring in stats from wherever I can, regardless of whether they support my assertions, for the sake of debate.

They aren't easy to find (because they've been deleted or hidden from public view to avoid inflaming sensitivities).

Like that Channel 4 programme that was focusing on this very issue 5 years ago - pulled from the schedules by nervous appeasers of a dictatorial ideology.

I thought I made that pretty clear. But no - there are liberal PC retards who would sooner attack me than admit that their notions of multicultural Britain may not smell as sweet as they hoped.

I haven't come here with any particular axe to grind other than, like the OP DrRingDing, I really dislike islamic culture and the manner in which it is imposed on both it's female followers and also non-islamic countries and people.

Moderate muslims? Great, as long as you don't try to fuck our kids.

Extremist islamists? Fuck em all, no better than nazis. If that makes me a bigot then so be it.

But I do believe there is a problem with islamic youth attitudes to non-muslim women, and young girls. I guess there are a few here who agree.

 

[Proper Tidy]

They aren't easy to find (because they've been deleted or hidden from public view to avoid inflaming sensitivities).

Lol

Moderate muslims? Great, as long as you don't try to fuck our kids.

Cunt

 

[phildwyer]

I really dislike islamic culture

I don't thınk you know much about ıt.

 

[Lock&Light]

But I do believe there is a problem with islamic youth attitudes to non-muslim women, and young girls. I guess there are a few here who agree.

This is my interpretation of what you have been saying all along, and I fully agree with you.

 

[pk]

I don't thınk you know much about ıt.

I know enough. Where were the wives of these child rapists?

Let me guess... marching for their rights and burning bras?

 

[pk]

This is my interpretation of what you have been saying all along, and I fully agree with you.

Not much help I'm afraid. A hindrance if anything.

 

[phildwyer]

I know enough.

Have you ever read a book by a Muslım?

 

[Lock&Light]

Not much help I'm afraid. A hindrance if anything.

I am not attempting to help. I am simply commenting. Anyway, every vote counts.

 

[pk]

Have you ever read a book by a Muslım?

A couple. Wistful novellas I can't be arsed to recall. Not my thing. I'm sure you'll recommend some...

 

[pk]

Lol



Cunt

Yeah, but that's all you got isn't it?

No evidence to disclaim my opinions and thought, nothing but LOL and Cunt. Like a retard.

Where's your research, your statistics, your opinions?

You got nothing. Dribbling wreck.

 

[phildwyer]

A couple. Wistful novellas I can't be arsed to recall. Not my thing. I'm sure you'll recommend some...

Ibn Khaldun's a good place to start.

Obvıously you know that a couple of novellas ıs not a suffıcıent basıs on whıch to condemn Islamıc culture.

 

[pk]

Ibn Khaldun's a good place to start.

Obvıously you know that a couple of novellas ıs not a suffıcıent basıs on whıch to condemn Islamıc culture.

It's not all about books is it, man of letters? It's about direct experiences. Watching boys torture themselves because they can't walk a girl home without risking a kicking from the dad/brothers, watching girls sneaking out the house with several changes of clothes and risking a beating from the old man for wearing infidel tight jeans and a t-shirt. All adds up to a fucked up view of the world, one where as muslims they are the chosen ones and everyone else is fucked come judgement day, like any religion, it's about control and power and denying basic human rights in the name of some myth.
And you can say the same about many religions but islam has the worst of those type of traits. Your wife is lucky marrying a westerner, I'll bet you can rattle off several others who are confined to a hateful marriage of oppression and control.

 

[phildwyer]

It's not all about books is it, man of letters? It's about direct experiences. Watching boys torture themselves because they can't walk a girl home without risking a kicking from the dad/brothers, watching girls sneaking out the house with several changes of clothes and risking a beating from the old man for wearing infidel tight jeans and a t-shirt. All adds up to a fucked up view of the world, one where as muslims they are the chosen ones and everyone else is fucked come judgement day, like any religion, it's about control and power and denying basic human rights in the name of some myth.
And you can say the same about many religions but islam has the worst of those type of traits. Your wife is lucky marrying a westerner, I'll bet you can rattle off several others who are confined to a hateful marriage of oppression and control.

Yes I can, that's true. And you're not entırely wrong ın what you say. My objectıon ıs to your tactıc of generalızatıon. You're generalızıng from the behavıor of a small mınorıty of Muslıms to condemn ''Islamıc culture'' as a whole. You're doıng that wıth, I'd guess, a pretty lımıted knowledge of Islamıc lıterature, art, musıc--maybe even hıstory.

So obvıously that doesn't make a lot of sense. You'd make much more sense ıf you lımıted your crıtıcısm to the cases ın whıch ıt applıes.

 

[pk]

Yes I can, that's true. And you're not entırely wrong ın what you say. My objectıon ıs to your tactıc of generalızatıon. You're generalızıng from the behavıor of a small mınorıty of Muslıms to condemn ''Islamıc culture'' as a whole. You're doıng that wıth, I'd guess, a pretty lımıted knowledge of Islamıc lıterature, art, musıc--maybe even hıstory.

So obvıously that doesn't make a lot of sense. You'd make much more sense ıf you lımıted your crıtıcısm to the cases ın whıch ıt applıes.

Well, I thought it was pretty clear that I was isolating criticism to only those who deserved it.
Unfortunately, once the deniers and nay-sayers decide the agenda for you, then it's a game of whack-a-mole which is fun but ultimately futile in terms of debate.
I see it as a defence of preconcieved notions that not many here are prepared to challenge in themselves.
I always act alone in these things, not ever been interested in dragging in others to shore up my own ideas, so it makes for an easy target when the posts are coming in thick and fast. Especially when I'm trying to other real life shit at the same time and my attention span wanders.

Either way it's an interesting debate, from challenging my own disdain for islam and observing the nervous sidestepping of others who find it easier to demonise the person than address the issues, but that's urban75 all over. It's why I'm here after all.

And if I'm generalizing then it's right I should be called out on it, I'd do the same if it were someone else.
All helps in the larger scale of things.