Ukraine: Unsubstantiated rumours and speculation

[maomao]

The details secret (to some degree), yes. The overall conclusion, not necessarily. Arguably it becomes more important to increasingly be as transparent as possible with increasing threat/risk so that all parties know precisely where everyone stands.

Equally might it not be important to keep people calm and not cause a run on sandbags and bottled water?

 

[2hats]

Russian MoD statement this evening that the 12th GUMO have just been involved in an anti-terrorism drill in far eastern Russia.

Военнослужащие 12-го Главного Управления Минобороны России провели занятие по противодействию терроризму в Хабаровском крае : Министерство обороны Российской Федерации

Занятия проводились для своевременного предупреждения, выявления и устранения причин и условий, способствующих совершению терактов, минимизации и ликвидации последствий проявлений терроризма.

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[maomao]

Russian MoD statement this evening that the 12th GUMO have just been involved in an anti-terrorism drill in far eastern Russia.

Военнослужащие 12-го Главного Управления Минобороны России провели занятие по противодействию терроризму в Хабаровском крае : Министерство обороны Российской Федерации

Занятия проводились для своевременного предупреждения, выявления и устранения причин и условий, способствующих совершению терактов, минимизации и ликвидации последствий проявлений терроризма.

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That just makes me think it's more likely they were moving nukes about really.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Uncorroborated potential bullshit but if it isnt…

 

[WhyLikeThis]

More here, if true its fucking grim.

 

[likesfish]

Allegedly two spetnez battalions and wagnar had a firefight on a training base.

 

[Flavour]

I've heard totally unsubstantied rumors from a Ukrainian friend with family in occupied kherson of men being castrated

 

[bluescreen]

In a letter to today's FT, Viktor Gilinsky from Santa Monica suggests that the reason for Putin blowing up the Nordstream pipelines was to ensure that oil oligarchs couldn't fund any opposition to him:

Putin was behind it because he worried about the loyalty of those in the oil and gas sector. Some top executives recently died in unexplained circumstances. Putin must have been concerned that leaders in this sector could become the nucleus of an opposition regime ready to compromise and resume gas flows to the west. What he did was to “burn the boats”, as ancient generals did on reaching an enemy shore, to make clear to their side there was no return.

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Makes a lot of sense.

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Uncorroborated potential bullshit but if it isnt…

Thankfully this was just teeth robbed off a dentist that had abstracted them.

 

[Yossarian]

Looting dentures from the living sounded a little extreme even by the standards of the orcupation.

 

[tim]

Looting dentures from the living sounded a little extreme even by the standards of the orcupation.

Yes, but it's a good story particularly if your going for the "their just like the Nazis" angle that propagandists on both sides favour.

 

[Aladdin]

Thankfully this was just teeth robbed off a dentist that had abstracted them.

Yeah like that sounds true because a dentist would keep a shitload of used gold fillings in his cabinet....

 

[maomao]

Yeah like that sounds true because a dentist would keep a shitload of used gold fillings in his cabinet....

Presumably if you were dealing with small amounts of gold regularly you'd keep them till you had enough to sell/recycle/whatever.

 

[Aladdin]

Presumably if you were dealing with small amounts of gold regularly you'd keep them till you had enough to sell/recycle/whatever.

Quite possibly.
But that looks like quite a lot of gold to keep in your office cabinet...for preaumably years...

Also he is REMOVING that many gold fillings ?

 

[not-bono-ever]

Gold crowns are normal out there

 

[Aladdin]

Gold crowns are normal out there

Yes...but crowns are put ON...and last up to 30 yeara by all accounts.

The box has crowns and fillings that were removed.

 

[Ming]

Yes...but crowns are put ON...and last up to 30 yeara by all accounts.

The box has crowns and fillings that were removed.

It’s his skull bowls and cups that concern me. And that lamp shade…

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Could this be it?

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

Could this be it?

lettuce prey

 

[bluescreen]

Could this be it?

It's his birthday today (born 7 October 1952).

 

[bluescreen]

And seeing as it's Putin's birthday, Peter Frankopan retweets Temur Umarov's observation that this year Xi Jinping did not congratulate his friend Vladimir Putin on his 70th birthday. But two days ago Xi sent an official letter to Tajikistan's president Emomali Rahmon on his 70th birthday.

From which one can deduce either distancing or bad diary keeping.

 

[DaveCinzano]

And seeing as it's Putin's birthday, Peter Frankopan retweets Temur Umarov's observation that this year Xi Jinping did not congratulate his friend Vladimir Putin on his 70th birthday. But two days ago Xi sent an official letter to Tajikistan's president Emomali Rahmon on his 70th birthday.

From which one can deduce either distancing or bad diary keeping.

 

[iona]

Yes...but crowns are put ON...and last up to 30 yeara by all accounts.

The box has crowns and fillings that were removed.

Every dentist I've worked for in the UK has a massive sharps bin somewhere partway full of extracted teeth. Plenty of reasons for teeth with fillings, crowns etc to need taking out. If we used gold more often in this country I'm sure at least some of them would be keeping the teeth themselves for the scrap value. Some probably already are, if they see enough patients to make that worth their while (quite common ime for dentists who were also immigrants to end up with lots of patients from the same country, for example)
E2a or he might just be a weirdo who likes to keep all of the teeth he's extracted. Plenty of people are a bit odd in some way

 

[Raheem]

Bit weird that people with gold teeth would see them as just rubbish for the dentist to dispose of.

 

[frogwoman]

Gold fillings are standard in the FSU

 

[frogwoman]

Quite a few of people above a certain age in Moldova have a lot of them. I'd be surprised if they are 100% real gold tbh

 

[keybored]

Quite a few of people above a certain age in Moldova have a lot of them. I'd be surprised if they are 100% real gold tbh

They're generally not. Pure gold is quite soft and rubbish for making a hard-wearing biting surface, so some sort of alloy containing gold is used.

 

[Aladdin]

Quite a few of people above a certain age in Moldova have a lot of them. I'd be surprised if they are 100% real gold tbh

24 karat?
Holy shit. Why would any patient leave the gold with their dentist?

 

[WhyLikeThis]

Totally unverified and most likely not sabotage but if it is…

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Rail bridge analysis:

The Rail bridge was constructed of prefabricated spans, that lock together like toy railroad tracks and rest on pylons on top of high specialized bearings that stabilize movement and absorb stock.
The fire that oxidized and melted the steel of the RR tracks, burned for 5 to 7 hours and can be visually seen to ’drip” extending down the sides of at least two spans and one pylon, probably at points of connection. It is likely all three of these are badly damaged and the bearings on top of at least one pylon are fused. These will take months to replace, presuming there are spare spans and bearings at hand, as the Dutch company that ignored sanctions and colluded with the Russians to build the bridge, is unlikely to be able to do so again.
“Official” Russian sources are now saying they expect it to take 1 to 1.5 months to repair the RR bridge, that may be pushing it.